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Lost Kangaroo 
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 Posted: May 01 2010 at 10:04am |
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SLR = Self Loading Rifle ....7.62 rimless NATO round.
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Tony
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Posted: May 01 2010 at 5:03pm |
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Yep standard nomenclature for the rifle in most countries.
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Posted: May 02 2010 at 1:17am |
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In the States it is usually referred to as an FN SLR or simply a FN their other products usually go by their model number FN-49 , FN Model 24 etc. There isn't much of a convention about them nowhere near the Heresy of calling a M1917 a P-17
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Posted: May 02 2010 at 1:36am |
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"There isn't much of a convention about them nowhere near the Heresy of
calling a M1917 a P-17."
I dunno, there's plenty in some places  . I once made the mistake of telling someone who'd never visited the UK that we called them SLR, pronounced "slur", not L1A1, or FAL.In some circles calling an Inch pattern "L1A1/SLR" a Fusil Automatique Léger ("Light Automatic Rifle") or FAL for short can lead to a little "heated debate" pretty darn fast. 
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: May 02 2010 at 2:03am |
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Yep they be called FAL too but that is again not as sever a crime as calling an Enfield Charger as "Stripper Clip" I just refer to the things L1A1/SLR/FAL as FNs. Ofcourse I call the highly accesorised car-15 clones that are usually shot off sand bags at 25 or 50 yards as "Ninja Sniper Assasination Guns"
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Posted: May 02 2010 at 5:14am |
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We're in agreement there even if I call them "Mall Ninja Poodle Pooters".
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: May 02 2010 at 6:48am |
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Lee Enfields used to be the choice rifle to carry bshing the seat of the car as the goverment actually gave them to the pastoralists for free and the ammo was also readily handed out. Cant see that happening ever again.
The 243 is the most common work rifle these days.
The donkeys are considered a pest and pastoralists are generally happy to allow them to be shot.
For me its about getting out in the bush and I keep the meat as pet meat.
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 11:06am |
There were legends of lone camels seen years or even decades later with the skeletal remains of calvarymen that had died of thirst still strapped to the saddle, while the Camel carried on unaffected by heat or thirst.
Don't think many could have long survived the sorts of predators they'd run into in the southwest, Mountain lions, Red Wolf, occasional Grizzly bears in some areas. Even if the adult camels could survive their offspring would end up easy prey.
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 11:09pm |
I remember when I visited Roo up in Rochester, when I first got to the range with him there was a few people playing round with an AR-15 carbine. They had it set up on a bench sitting on bags, shooting at, and missing clay targets at about 15 metres on the pistol range. With a scope on the thing. Later that day we had clay targets out on the 50m mound, and I was managing to hit about 8 from 10 standing un-supported using an old nagant 91-30 with iron sights. I used a Savage No4 Mk1* to much the same effect as well. |
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Posted: May 05 2010 at 1:38am |
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I had no problem hitting dead center at 250 yards offhand using an original Colt sporter with 16 inch barrel firing offhand, till the wid kicked up, then those little pills began going where ever they liked down wind from the target.
itty bitty bullets just don't buck wind and even a thick branch can cause one to shed its jacket and spray the target with melted core droplets like ratshot.
At anything other than point blank one might empty a mag into a camel without being sure of a kill, especially firing from above where there a couple of feet of hump between the bullet and vitals.
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Posted: May 05 2010 at 5:40am |
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A body shot from above on a camel would be futile, even with a large calber round. The hump is all fat and in a good season you woild have at least 2 to 3 feet of fat to penetrate.
Body shots are not good even from the ground. if you have to try a body shot, into the ribcage right behind the front leg or a chest shot. both can be effective but nowhere near as effective as the upper neck shot.
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Posted: May 09 2010 at 11:40am |
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Does the 215 grain bullet do more damage on a beast that size, or is the camel so big that 215 Woodleigh vs. whatever 180 grain soft point doesn't really matter to the point where the shooter can tell a difference?
What's harder to knock down the camel or the water buffalos over there? I'd have guesed buffalo by a wide margin, but it sounds like you're saying body shots on camels don't produce sufficient results. So, are the in the buffalo class, the moose class or somewhere in between?
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Posted: May 09 2010 at 7:23pm |
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I use 110 grn hollow points in my 270 on camels. Most of the pastoralists use a 243 with factory loads.
I have never shot a Buff but I believe you need a pretty big rifle. Mind you, plenty have been taken with the 303, like everything, its a matter of placement.
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Posted: May 11 2010 at 12:12pm |
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Thanks to everyone for all the information and enlightening a deer hunter about shooting camels. |
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Posted: January 18 2014 at 3:21am |
Back in the very early 70s a film called 'Across the Top' was made and shown across Australia in small towns and the cities. If my memory serves me there's a comment or clip in it about shooting buffalo with the .303. The bloke didn't recommend it as they needed about 5 rounds before going down and could get real grumpy in the mean time and chase the shooter from 'pillar to post'. We have camels up here where I work and Ive been invited by the pastoral manager to shoot some. I hope to come up with my Martini Henry in 35 Whelen Rimmed and bowl a few. For those who are interested the 35 Whelen R is a case based on the 9.3 x 72R case necked down and shortened. It is so close to the old 35 Win as to be nearly identical. The rifle was a 35 Win but cases are now unavailable so it has to be fed something else close to it. I got the action donkey's years ago and put a brand new 26" Douglas XX barrel on it, made a new stock and forearm and reblued it. The rifle is a bit light (6.5lbs) but has a good recoil pad. 225gn spitzer at 2550fps. Should deal with a camel eh? Might take the No4 too.
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Posted: January 18 2014 at 5:27am |
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as long as you-all brought it up , i call my belgian an FN FAL and an SLR , since both are true ,
mine was one of that group that got imported here as sporting rifles because they marked it 308 match ,      our nato rifle was the M14 , mine is a springfield armory M1A , i do have a military stock for it too as well as handguard ,  |
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