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    Posted: December 28 2014 at 7:47am
Has any one heard or seen this before?

I have a friend bring me over a parts gun with a cracked receiver. Based on his description it is a striped rec/ barrel assembly that was "sporterized".

I will know more by New Years.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote White Rhino Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2014 at 8:18am
Well lets hope this guy is as bad as my Son Boogie on part names and has gotten confused, and its All we can do now is keep our fingers crossed and something else cracked and not the receiver !!
Boogie went a few months ago to help his future Father in Law clean out his garage, and the Ole Guy gave him a Mossberg bolt action .410 that he had stored out in the garage , it needs a new choke and a couple of other small parts , but other than that it is still functional !! Looks like it will be a project for Him and I to work on when the house stuff gets completed !!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sarge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2014 at 8:19am
If the receiver is cracked... leave it where it is.
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It is possible because who knows what Bubba did or tried to do with it.
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post photos , hope its not as bad as it sounds 

WR - i had one of those mossberg bolt 410s the safety did not work - check that out carefully , otherwise it had gorgeous walnut stock and functioned quite well , nice project , 
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Sounds to an un-educated guy like me, that he over loaded the charge.
But then again - he may have his terminology wrong
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There are any number of reasons for a cracked receiver (if thats what he has) but yet to see one that was not the victim of some outside influence.... Wink




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Who knows? Maybe something went wrong with a barrel change, or attempted one.
Where is this crack?
Its really hard to troubleshoot with this little info.
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we seem to get a lot of that these days , im thinking to sit back and wait on these posts untill they stand and deliver so we can speak with some kind of reality , way too mush speculation without ,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2014 at 4:16am
I believe Paddy is waiting for the rifle to arrive so he can take pictures; at least that's what I understand when I re-read the post.
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rebarreled  is a clue.
 
didn't the enfields have an odd thread size or thread angle (55 degrees?)different than other rifles. and isn't it possible to forcibly thread those other barrels on any way and damage the threads . its also possible that too much force may crack the receiver. Purely speculation but pull the barrel and see what the threads look like.
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The U.S. M1917s were notorious for having barrels torqued on very hard, a relief cut has to be make in the barrel with a lathe to relieve the pressure to avoid cracking the receiver. Many novice learned the hard way that a lot of force on a big wrench is not the answer.  None of my friends or I have ever removed a barrel from a SMLE so I don't know the situation with them.  With war time production who knows.
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Did you get hold of this action yet Paddy? Curious to know what this crack is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote paddyofurniture Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2015 at 5:39am
With a bit of luck Saturday but from what I understand now it is a stripped action with barrel.

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I bought a Canadian stamped SMLE and during inspection I found the receiver cracked right under the ejector screw. It was in its correct configuration and the barrel matched the receiver.
 
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