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    Posted: April 02 2015 at 8:43am
Is DZ 1944 303 brass Canadian?

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Supposed to be Polish, believe it or not.Shocked

About Ammunition Headstamp Code: DZ

Internal ID Code: 289

Ammunition Country of Origin

  • Poland

About the Ammunition Manufacturer

  • Unknown Factory, Poland

References

  • Unknown, Small Arms Identification Guide, Volume 1 (Some errors in headstamp identification), Defense Intelligence Agency, Aug 1984; and cartridgecollectors.org

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote paddyofurniture Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2015 at 4:41pm
Boxer primed from Poland?

I was think it was Canadian.

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I think it's Canadian too.

We are close to April 1st.....

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Where is Hoadie when you need him?

I think Hoadie could smell the brass casing and tell if the casing are Canadian.
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Originally posted by paddyofurniture paddyofurniture wrote:

I think Hoadie could smell the brass casing and tell if the casing are Canadian.
Must be the bacon fat
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"DI Z" would be Canadian. Defense Industries non-cordite.

"Defence Industries, Verdun, Canada. Known to have produced .303 cartridges in... Ball, Nitro-cellulose Mk 7Z (Canadian Pattern)

Ball, Nitro-cellulose Mk 8Z (Canadian Pattern)

Cartridge Rifle Grenade, Ballistite H Mk 1Z (Canadian Pattern)

Drill D 1942 (Canadian Pattern)

Tracer G Mk 2Z, G Mk 4Z, G Mk 6Z (Canadian Pattern)"

I cant find any reference to just plain "DZ" being Canadian. The Polish was the only one I found looking a a bunch of different sources. As it was only from one source it might not even be right!
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Also mitigating against a Polish source would be the 1944 date - surely any factory production at that time would be for 7.92 calibre?

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Now that I have obtained the she!! casings in hand I think the information chances.

The brass is marked 1944, DI, Z.
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That makes perfect sense!
That's nice brass too.
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Originally posted by paddyofurniture paddyofurniture wrote:

Where is Hoadie when you need him?

I think Hoadie could smell the brass casing and tell if the casing are Canadian.


You called?
Well, hereb I am.
Wots you want?
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Is this Canadian brass?
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methinks so..but I cant smell it from here
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You must have a cold.
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Funny that this should come up at this time.
I have a single loaded round with this headstamp, "D I   Z"  1943.
 
Just asked a Q on another forum & no reply;
 
The bullet tip is painted Gold.  I have seen red tips & white tips but not gold. Does anyone know what Gold tips represent??
 
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PS, it looks correct, not like someone just painted it for the heck.
 
 
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I looked in my info & can't find anything with a gold tip from any nation in .303. Yellow was a proof round. is the closest I could find. Might it be an old Remington Bronze point instead of paint?
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