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    Posted: December 27 2021 at 1:31pm
Good day all. New here. I have a Enfield no.5 mk1 ROF 9/44 jungle as stipple engraved on the left of the reciever.
Things not right with it -
Bolt is not hollowed out
Lee Enfield no.4 butt stock added.
Top part of the fore stock appears to be new(er).
The adjustable flip up square rear sight seems also to be fairly new.

Question, is this worth making whole again? The only original parts seem to be the lower fore stock, barrel/action and trigger assembly.

Thanks in advance.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2021 at 7:09pm
Hard to tell from the picture but the markings are not as neat as mine.  The dates appear to be 9/44 so it is an early one and that could be a production issue.  1st question.  Does the bolt SN match the receiver's?.  If it does then I would be concerned.  I have attached the markings for a a receiver made a year later
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where would I find those serial numbers?
I have seen more serial numbers loosely inscribed like mine, than really organized like yours. but admittedly I'm very, very new to these rifles
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The SN for the rifle is marked on the bolt.  Since your bolt is not hollowed out, it is not likely a No.5 bolt.  If the SN of the bolt does not match the rifle, then that merely says someone put a No.4 bolt on it.   No5s had a 4 digit SN with a letter (s) preceding the number.  For a 9/44 No.5 production, the four digits would be preceded by a single letter in the first half of the alphabet.    No.4s had 5 digit SN also preceded by a letter(s)
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The bolt serial number
FC2037O(orC)A

On the back of the bolt/bolt pull back thing
FYM K1 and maybe another 1

Bolt head
a B on one side
a 1 on the top of the square flat.

The firering pin is broken off. Where it was necked down I think.
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You need to do some looking at the receiver and some disassembly. The receiver should have metal removed from under the rear sight.  The sides will angle inward for about half the length of the sight where in a No.4 the sides will be vertical.   if you take the top of the forestock off, you should see lighting cuts made in the barrel.  If you do not have those, you do not have a No.5 receiver or barrel. 
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mine looks just like your pics.
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I'll need to find a dis assembly vid.
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The main concern of yours will be the rifling and the chamber. Check for any rust in those areas.  The other things you are concerned with, like the firing pin is fixable.  
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My first concern would the electro penciling on the receiver, pretty amateurish looking, either that it was done by someone extremely hung over on a Monday in 1944.
These like many enfields have been faked... 
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but it does have the lightening cutouts on the barrel and the sloped sides on the reciever....?
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a better view of the serial number

https://flic.kr/p/2mU7zQF
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barrel lighting

https://flic.kr/p/2mUaVGa



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action lightning

https://flic.kr/p/2mU6rGb
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I wouldn't worry about the sloppy engraving too much, mine is just as bad.

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It is an original No5Mk1.  Nothing to worry about...
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