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Zed, for now, I’ve decided on using the .22 Rimfire 50 yard Reduced SR Target.  This will put all three Rifle Classes using the same target and all scores will be directly comparable.  

The SR Target is not very challenging in the prone position (the SR target is really intended for Standing Slow Fire and Sitting Rapid Fire), however, for relatively inexperienced shooters, it gives them an achievable goal to shoot a “clean” score (100 points with a high X ring count).  Someone like you may be able to shoot 100-10x on this target.  If it becomes to easy, we can change the target to the NRA MR target reduced to 50 yards (also available on the ray-vin web site for printing.  If you shoot 100-10x on that, you need to be on the Olympic Team!
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For clarification on the  .22 trainer/conversions with iron sights britrifles  .  Does the PH5C with German optics and PH FS22 globe front sights qualify as iron sights or would that subjugate that particular setup into the Unlimited Class?
I have no means to install original iron sights onto my  .22 converted rifle and can only facilitate the use of the Parker Hale arrangement with the Gehmann optics and can only assume that this would be considered a scoped rifle and fall under the Unlimited Class?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Goosic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2020 at 12:26pm
 I would like to compete using my Long Branch with the New Old Stock two groove barrel still chambered for the .303 British round. Here is the Rub though. It is scoped and would have to be shot under the Class 2 Unlimited rules. I would be using handloads as well that are specifically tailored to this rifle. To the forum members I ask. Would this be an acceptable rifle to use for this Virtual Match?
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Goosic, PH5C is fine for the .22 Trainer class.  Does the optic have any magnification or is it just focus? If it has magnification, can you set it to 1x power or remove it and install the disc aperture? 

The .303 Long Branch with scope would be fine for the “unlimited” class.  

I’ve tried to keep the Class definitions broad and inclusive enough such that almost any Lee Enfield rifle can be used.  The intent of the Class 1 Service Rifle is for those rifles that are essentially close to the “as issued” configuration with allowance for aperture sights such as the PH and AJ Parker and shot prone as they were in Service Rifle Matches.  Rifles with scopes can be shot off the bench under Class 2 Unlimited.

Handloads are allowed for Class 1 and 2.  

If there are several members wanting to have a scoped .22 Class, we can do that too...




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The PH5C optic is a stand alone 1.5x magnification with no options for a reduction in power. I currently have no other disc aperture sights for it.
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Goosic, I want to be accommodating, but also don’t want to give some an unfair advantage.  Perhaps a .22 scoped class is in order if there are a few others with scoped .22 Trainers. I’m sure I’ve seen one or two others with a scoped .22.  But then, a 1.5x power is at a serious disadvantage from a 15 or 20x scope!  Do you have another PH5C you can fit?  Swap out the windage arm?  We will figure something out here...

I will probably shoot my CNo. 7 Trainer, it has the original rear sight which is windage adjustable. I need to find a 50 yard range....






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Im going to shoot the SR-1 target because I can get twice as many targets for the same cost. Over at the club somebody locked up the target cabinet and they're holding the key in secret or something.

When I ordered them I got the same amount of black pasters as I did buff. Ill have a life long supply of black pasters if anything at all.

Im going to use either a no 4 or a no1 mkIII
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote klondike Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2020 at 4:28pm
I'll have to find some of those targets, for the sr1 .
I'll use my US property Parker Hale.
Should be fun.
Just ordered 3 packs of the targets on ebay.
Now all I need is a mat to lay on and a spotter
I don't think using Match grade bullets is going to help
My 72 year old eyes. Pretty sure iam going to have to change my front site, to a taller one, I have a assortment to choose from.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Thanks, but I ordered 3 packages from a guy on ebay already.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RayR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2021 at 5:36am
I like this concept and the different catagories.

I'll be shooting my No. 4 MK I in the unlimited class.
 
I'll probably be shooting it this summer once it's back from the gunsmiths shop.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honkytonk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2021 at 6:09am
britrifles... another question. In the "unlimited class" shooting off a bench is allowed. Does that include sandbags/rest? Thanks!
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I found my other Gehmann optic for the PH5C.  It is adjustable from .5x-3x.
When I do get out to shoot, I will set it at 1.0x. I will use the standard SR-1 @ 50 yards if that is okay with you? I got a box of 100 count the other day...
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HT, yes, the Unlimited Class is intended to allow you to shoot supported off the bench.  So, a rest and a sandbag under the butt is allowed.  

Goosic, setting the optic at 1x will be fine, that “is in the spirit” of the rules for no magnification for shooting the Service Rifle class.  However, if your SR-1 Target scoring ring diameters are as I provided in the first post, that is a target intended for 100 yards.  You can find SR Target reduced for 50 Yards on the Ray Vin website and can print that for free, it will be approx half the size of the NRA SR-1 target. 




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I’ve updated the first post to include how to score your target.  We will use NRA/CMP rules for scoring, if the bullet hole touches or breaks the scoring ring, the value of that ring applies.  

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Thanks, I'd wondered about that. Inward scoring it is then.
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