Enfield-Rifles Forum Virtual Match

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   Zed, for now, I’ve decided on using the .22 Rimfire 50 yard Reduced SR Target.  This will put all three Rifle Classes using the same target and all scores will be directly comparable.  
The SR Target is not very challenging in the prone position (the SR target is really intended for Standing Slow Fire and Sitting Rapid Fire), however, for relatively inexperienced shooters, it gives them an achievable goal to shoot a “clean” score (100 points with a high X ring count).  Someone like you may be able to shoot 100-10x on this target.  If it becomes to easy, we can change the target to the NRA MR target reduced to 50 yards (also available on the ray-vin web site for printing.  If you shoot 100-10x on that, you need to be on the Olympic Team!

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britrifles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 03 2018 Location: Atlanta, GA Status: Offline Points: 2637	Post Options Post Reply Quote britrifles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: December 31 2020 at 6:39am
	Zed, for now, I’ve decided on using the .22 Rimfire 50 yard Reduced SR Target. This will put all three Rifle Classes using the same target and all scores will be directly comparable. The SR Target is not very challenging in the prone position (the SR target is really intended for Standing Slow Fire and Sitting Rapid Fire), however, for relatively inexperienced shooters, it gives them an achievable goal to shoot a “clean” score (100 points with a high X ring count). Someone like you may be able to shoot 100-10x on this target. If it becomes to easy, we can change the target to the NRA MR target reduced to 50 yards (also available on the ray-vin web site for printing. If you shoot 100-10x on that, you need to be on the Olympic Team!

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Goosic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: September 12 2017 Location: Phoenix Arizona Status: Offline Points: 4971	Post Options Post Reply Quote Goosic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: December 31 2020 at 11:48am
	For clarification on the .22 trainer/conversions with iron sights britrifles . Does the PH5C with German optics and PH FS22 globe front sights qualify as iron sights or would that subjugate that particular setup into the Unlimited Class? I have no means to install original iron sights onto my .22 converted rifle and can only facilitate the use of the Parker Hale arrangement with the Gehmann optics and can only assume that this would be considered a scoped rifle and fall under the Unlimited Class?

Goosic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: September 12 2017 Location: Phoenix Arizona Status: Offline Points: 4971	Post Options Post Reply Quote Goosic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: December 31 2020 at 12:26pm
	I would like to compete using my Long Branch with the New Old Stock two groove barrel still chambered for the .303 British round. Here is the Rub though. It is scoped and would have to be shot under the Class 2 Unlimited rules. I would be using handloads as well that are specifically tailored to this rifle. To the forum members I ask. Would this be an acceptable rifle to use for this Virtual Match?

britrifles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 03 2018 Location: Atlanta, GA Status: Offline Points: 2637	Post Options Post Reply Quote britrifles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: December 31 2020 at 1:08pm
	Goosic, PH5C is fine for the .22 Trainer class. Does the optic have any magnification or is it just focus? If it has magnification, can you set it to 1x power or remove it and install the disc aperture? The .303 Long Branch with scope would be fine for the “unlimited” class. I’ve tried to keep the Class definitions broad and inclusive enough such that almost any Lee Enfield rifle can be used. The intent of the Class 1 Service Rifle is for those rifles that are essentially close to the “as issued” configuration with allowance for aperture sights such as the PH and AJ Parker and shot prone as they were in Service Rifle Matches. Rifles with scopes can be shot off the bench under Class 2 Unlimited. Handloads are allowed for Class 1 and 2. If there are several members wanting to have a scoped .22 Class, we can do that too...

Goosic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: September 12 2017 Location: Phoenix Arizona Status: Offline Points: 4971	Post Options Post Reply Quote Goosic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: December 31 2020 at 1:16pm
	The PH5C optic is a stand alone 1.5x magnification with no options for a reduction in power. I currently have no other disc aperture sights for it.

britrifles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 03 2018 Location: Atlanta, GA Status: Offline Points: 2637	Post Options Post Reply Quote britrifles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: December 31 2020 at 2:12pm
	Goosic, I want to be accommodating, but also don’t want to give some an unfair advantage. Perhaps a .22 scoped class is in order if there are a few others with scoped .22 Trainers. I’m sure I’ve seen one or two others with a scoped .22. But then, a 1.5x power is at a serious disadvantage from a 15 or 20x scope! Do you have another PH5C you can fit? Swap out the windage arm? We will figure something out here... I will probably shoot my CNo. 7 Trainer, it has the original rear sight which is windage adjustable. I need to find a 50 yard range....

Doco Overboard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: January 26 2020 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 31	Post Options Post Reply Quote Doco Overboard Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: December 31 2020 at 2:49pm
	Im going to shoot the SR-1 target because I can get twice as many targets for the same cost. Over at the club somebody locked up the target cabinet and they're holding the key in secret or something. When I ordered them I got the same amount of black pasters as I did buff. Ill have a life long supply of black pasters if anything at all. Im going to use either a no 4 or a no1 mkIII

klondike Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: June 11 2016 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 276	Post Options Post Reply Quote klondike Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: December 31 2020 at 4:28pm
	I'll have to find some of those targets, for the sr1 . I'll use my US property Parker Hale. Should be fun. Just ordered 3 packs of the targets on ebay. Now all I need is a mat to lay on and a spotter I don't think using Match grade bullets is going to help My 72 year old eyes. Pretty sure iam going to have to change my front site, to a taller one, I have a assortment to choose from.

Shamu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 13042	Post Options Post Reply Quote Shamu Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 01 2021 at 10:42am
	Try here for targets: https://tjtarget.com/product/black-sr-1-rifle-targets-100-yard/
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

klondike Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: June 11 2016 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 276	Post Options Post Reply Quote klondike Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 01 2021 at 12:48pm
	Thanks, but I ordered 3 packages from a guy on ebay already.

RayR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: September 21 2012 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 29	Post Options Post Reply Quote RayR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 02 2021 at 5:36am
	I like this concept and the different catagories. I'll be shooting my No. 4 MK I in the unlimited class. I'll probably be shooting it this summer once it's back from the gunsmiths shop.
	Semper Fi

Honkytonk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 30 2017 Location: Brandon Mb Status: Offline Points: 3521	Post Options Post Reply Quote Honkytonk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 02 2021 at 6:09am
	britrifles... another question. In the "unlimited class" shooting off a bench is allowed. Does that include sandbags/rest? Thanks!

Goosic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: September 12 2017 Location: Phoenix Arizona Status: Offline Points: 4971	Post Options Post Reply Quote Goosic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 02 2021 at 9:35am
	I found my other Gehmann optic for the PH5C. It is adjustable from .5x-3x. When I do get out to shoot, I will set it at 1.0x. I will use the standard SR-1 @ 50 yards if that is okay with you? I got a box of 100 count the other day...

britrifles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 03 2018 Location: Atlanta, GA Status: Offline Points: 2637	Post Options Post Reply Quote britrifles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 02 2021 at 11:31am
	HT, yes, the Unlimited Class is intended to allow you to shoot supported off the bench. So, a rest and a sandbag under the butt is allowed. Goosic, setting the optic at 1x will be fine, that “is in the spirit” of the rules for no magnification for shooting the Service Rifle class. However, if your SR-1 Target scoring ring diameters are as I provided in the first post, that is a target intended for 100 yards. You can find SR Target reduced for 50 Yards on the Ray Vin website and can print that for free, it will be approx half the size of the NRA SR-1 target.

britrifles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 03 2018 Location: Atlanta, GA Status: Offline Points: 2637	Post Options Post Reply Quote britrifles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 03 2021 at 6:33am
	I’ve updated the first post to include how to score your target. We will use NRA/CMP rules for scoring, if the bullet hole touches or breaks the scoring ring, the value of that ring applies.

Shamu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 13042	Post Options Post Reply Quote Shamu Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 03 2021 at 9:24am
	Thanks, I'd wondered about that. Inward scoring it is then. (time to rush out & buy one of those cute little magnifiers on a .30' pointy thing then.)
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)