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    Posted: November 17 2020 at 8:41am
Both my hunting buddies use .308's and reload... last year they loaded up a bunch of 150 gr some kind of coloured plastic tip projectiles moving around 2800 ft/sec. One buddy hit a deer in the shoulder last year and absolutely shredded it. This year, other buddy shoots a nice buck in the rear (running away shot @ about 75 yards... a shot I would never take). When we skinned it, it looked pretty shredded. When I cut it up the next day, OMG!! What a mess! It's like these tips explode on impact as I never did find an exit wound. Not a fan of these projectiles... maybe for varmints.
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Maybe they were the right bore diameter, but not rated for that kind of velocity?
I was given some 170 gr "30-30" bullets. I loaded them into a 7.62 running at 2500FPS & they literally blew up with a melted core on the way to the target!
When you looked at the targets most had keyholed & many had a spiral grey smudges radiating from the hole!
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Sounds like Hornady’s SST or Nosler’s Ballistic tips or even Sierra Gamekings.
With most of those type bullets there won’t be a lot of it left at these velocities at that range but that is how those bullets are designed, for rapid expansion on light to mid weight game at close range or modest expansion at long range.
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303 Hunter, after you mentioned the name, it was SST's... nasty devils...
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If you were to drive the Hornady Inter-locks at the same velocities you would get similar results, because other than the polymer tip they are pretty much constructed the same.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honkytonk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2020 at 8:05am
I suppose that's true. Hornady 150 Spire Points have always been a great whitetail round for me and I've never seen that much damage, but as you say, by the loading manual they are cruising at about 2500 ft/sec.
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Also if they are using the SST design for the .300 savage that would also explain why the bullet fell apart the way it did.
Although a coworker of mine had a similar experience with the mule deer he shot this year, he shot it from about 50 yards with Hornady’s 95 grain SST Superformance load from his 6mm Remington, completely shattered the shoulder bone and didn’t exit.
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I have been using Hornady A-Max 208grain projectiles in my 308 Winchester.
Results so far = hit Deer, Deer takes about 1 step if lucky = Deer dead on the spot.
observed (by a mate spotting the shot) a massive hydrostatic shock to the animal, fairly extensive wound trail and sadly meat damage, but not having to trail a dying/wounded animal into the bush compensates for this.
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