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    Posted: February 18 2021 at 8:28pm
From all of my research I can't seem to find any reference to the serial number on my No 4, Mk 2.  The left side of the receiver is stamped:

No4 Mk2 (F)
10/49 PF 140 299

Bolt and magazine have the same PF 140 299 number.

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What are you trying to find out?
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what the gap is?
140#229?
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that is the serial number , straton has a list of which serial numbers are related to what contracts , i no longer have my copy - someone here that does can check it for you , 
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It must be either:
a seven digit number.
Or
2 X 3-digit numbers separated by a space?
That's got me buffaloed.
I'm guessing a mis-strike, but its hard to guess second hand.
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For a while they had a period in there for a thousands separator. Here is my 1948 as an example:


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote devrep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:20am
mine is July of 49 and is 5 digits.  it has a comma (looks more like a period) after the first 2 digits.  maybe your space is the comma between the first 3 and last 3 digits.
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there ya go - explained , now whoever has a copy of stratton available tell hi which contract it was made for , 
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devrep, you serial is 6 digits. Look at mine and then yours. It is only a 3 sided box around the PF. The first digit in your serial is 1. Plus, yours being a 7/49, mine a 7/48 the serial number on yours wouldn't be lower than mine. They didn't restart the numbering after switching to the Mk 2.

A_square, I was planning to do that when I get home tonight.
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I didn't realize that the box was 3 sided.  as to our 2 serial numbers yours is a mk1 and mine is a mark 2.  would they be in the same serial number string?

Originally posted by Bear43 Bear43 wrote:

devrep, you serial is 6 digits. Look at mine and then yours. It is only a 3 sided box around the PF. The first digit in your serial is 1. Plus, yours being a 7/49, mine a 7/48 the serial number on yours wouldn't be lower than mine. They didn't restart the numbering after switching to the Mk 2.

A_square, I was planning to do that when I get home tonight.
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Thanks for all of the input.  Upon closer inspection my 6 digits are separated by a ".", or period.  After a bit more research I found the accepted starting point for Mk 2s is PF100,000, thus mine was the 40,299th one made.  I also believe, but the information is sketchy, the initial batch was contracted to South Africa.

Thanks again for all of the help.
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the fine fellows on this forum informed me that this mark on mine is a South African government mark.
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ok , not that certain , but ill accept that for the time being , i was under the impression that SA markings were a "U" but im always open to learning new things of something i know less about - ive never owned a SA rifle myself , 
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