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Irish Blonde
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Topic: FNGPosted: December 27 2024 at 6:59am |
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Greetings. I bought a new in wrapper No4MK2 in 2010 and been shooting it ever since. It’s an Irish Blonde contract serial numbered rifle. Hope to learn & share what I’ve learned shooting, gun smithing & hand loading for this beauty.
I shoot LR & ELR with precision rifles I part together, but still get a warm & fuzzy feeling shooting my Enfield to 600yds, heck even 200yds. This girl has some impressive precision for what she is! I found this rifle likes Sierra Pro Hunter flat base 150gr bullets. I cruise them at 2650fps with AA2520, N540 & Varget. Remington & Winchester brass bought in bulk years back. (Hornady 150s do good too) I used to shoot iron sights, but now need a scope due to older eyes. I mounted a Bad Ace no drill scope mount & Burris 2-7 Fullfield II scope. Also put on a Bradley adjustable cheek riser that seems to help with cheek weld. I recently worked over the bend of the cocking piece and have a smooth first stage that hits a wall to the second stage. Second stage is 1.25lbs pull weight. Feels like the M1A match trigger. Brad ![]() ![]() |
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britrifles
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Posted: December 27 2024 at 10:41am |
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Welcome to the forum. Nice looking No. 4
What range were those groups shot at? Was that a typo on the second stage pull weight of 1.25 lbs? M1A match trigger minimum weight is 4.5 lbs. I would be nervous taking a No. 4 trigger down to 1.25 lbs, tho I have heard of someone else doing that. I have gone as low as 3.5 lbs, but found I could easily pull straight through to second stage not intentionally. For reference, here in the US, vintage military rifle match rules for bolt rifles is 3.5 lbs and 4.5 for semi-auto. These have more to do with safety margins than anything else. |
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Posted: December 27 2024 at 11:09am |
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Welcome from North Carolina!
Nice looking rifle.
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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Posted: December 27 2024 at 2:08pm |
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Welcome to the forum! That really is a good looking and fine shooting specimen!
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Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually
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Shamu
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Posted: December 27 2024 at 2:56pm |
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1.25Lbs is light! Mine is a smooth & crisp 3.75Lbs but feels like less. |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: December 27 2024 at 3:52pm |
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welcome , love the looks of those birch stocks - tours looks great and seems to shoot well ,
\ i had two b8t they were not on no4s , one was on a Cno7 that went to an enfield collector in achedemia recruiting , the other was a charnwood conversion 762x51
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Posted: December 28 2024 at 3:47am |
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Welcome from Texas! That's a beautiful rifle you have there. As I've gotten older I too have added scopes to a couple of my rifles using Addley Precision no drill scope mounts.
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Irish Blonde
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Posted: December 28 2024 at 5:29am |
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Thanks everyone for the kind words about my girl!
Now to answer the inquisition! The entire trigger pull combined weight between the 2 stages reads ave at 3lbs, 10oz. I was focusing on the 2nd stage weight after pulling through the first stage. It feels like my other single stage 1.5lbs triggers. The cocking piece does not move through the 1st stage, and the trigger is very predictable as I hit the second stage wall. Yes, this is a rifle that needs a notice to a new or different shooter, because they could just blast through both stages unexpectedly if they are used to the stock Enfield trigger. Luckily for me I don't have others firing my guns very often. Even so, all my rifles are set to break light. I've drop tested the heck outta the trigger numerous times and shot in 17 F. weather with cold fingers and didn't have any premature firings. The groups I posted were shot at 50yds bagged up. The sight picture is much better at that range and if something is off at 50yds, then it's a definite no go for anything further. This was a POI test/observation between Remington and Winchester cases using identical components other than brass. WIN hits lower than REM for some reason only harmonics can explain. (POI at 50yds for a 200yds zero needs to hit roughly 3/4" high) This Burris is a shotgun/muzzleloader scope which I paid $110 on sale about 15-18yrs ago. I don't think the thing tracks all that well with zero changes. It's also a very thick reticle. Thinking about upgrading to a 3-9 or 10X scope that will look decent on the rifle. Open to suggestions on that. @britrifles or anyone else who knows, I notice AA2520 loads are vertically stringing whereas shot back to back, the N540 and Varget are printing regular cone of fire groups. Maybe the AA2520 is causing a different recoil impulse? Making the barrel bounce off the front lower & inner handquard?
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Posted: December 28 2024 at 5:31am |
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I hunt hogs in NW Texas. Past 25yrs. Now that I've mounted a scope, I can blast a few of them critters!
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Posted: December 28 2024 at 7:49am |
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Beauty! I can appreciate the blonde Lee Enfields but I've never really been a fan. I've always liked a darker "mahogany'ish" wood on any rifle. Seems richer and warmer to me, but just one man's opinion!
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Posted: December 28 2024 at 11:05am |
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Love me the brunettes too! Just gotta appreciate the beauty of them all!
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britrifles
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Posted: December 28 2024 at 3:30pm |
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OK, a second stage pull weight of 3 lbs 10 oz makes a lot more sense.
Some loads will string rounds vertically. I had that that problem when I tried the Sierra 180 gr PH bullet. I moved on once I found the 174 SMK shot so well with Re15, IMR 4064 and Varget. I’ve not tried AA2520 in the No. 4 but shot a lot of it in my ARs and got very good accuracy with it. Some load tuning might resolve the problem. Groups look pretty good for 50 yards. Shot off the bench with scope, these rifles should get down to 1 to 1.5 MOA with a tuned handload. |
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Posted: December 29 2024 at 5:58am |
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Varget is pretty much my Go-To powder for my numerous Lee Enfield rifles and have obtained maximum accuracy from handloads with it. Some clubs allow commercial optics on your Lee Enfield in their sniper divisions but insist on vintage scopes like the Weaver K4 with a maximum of 4X. I installed an El Paso vintage K4 on my LB with the Addley precision no drill mount and a Redfield "Widefield" 1 3/4 - 5 on a 2A using the Addley Precision No.1 MkIII scope mount lightly modified to fit the different 7.62 extractor screw location.
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Posted: December 29 2024 at 11:59am |
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US Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) Rules for Vintage Sniper Rifle Matches allow reproduction Mk 32 scopes and mounts. A Weaver K2.5 or K3 is also allowed, but must be in an original or repro No. 32 mount. Not sure why they don’t allow a simple no drill scope mount, but CMP tends to lean towards competition that is “as issued” or at least “in the spirit of the original”.
The CMP also recently introduced a new class of Vintage Sniper Rifle, 1954-1976. The L42A1 is the only British Sniper Rifle allowed, but these are quite rare in the US. Weaver K3 or K4 is allowed as a substitute for the No. 32 scope. I suspect matches in this class will be won by X ring count. |
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Shamu
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Posted: December 29 2024 at 5:36pm |
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3Lb 10 oz is GTG! (as long as its a smooth 3Lb 10 oz)
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: January 20 2025 at 10:03pm |
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FWIW - we were once all FNGs here , it took a good number of posts to be known and in some cases known as a character here , sadly we have lost a couple of them over the years but there are still a few of us that have reputations , you will get used to us if you hang on and realize there is no harm or criticism intended by our chiding , we are a jovial group that love our enfields and enjoy a bit of sparing from ytime to time ,
we also have a wealth of information on enfields that if your patient you will acquire from these threads , some direct others from looking back in our history , its a great site if you want to learn of one of the more complicated areas of military history weapons
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