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SteveP02 
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 Topic: Ammo?Posted: February 21 2025 at 10:38am |
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Saw this for sale locally. It has been a while since I shot .303 but I think it used to look a bit like this. Or maybe not. Could anyone suggest what I'm looking at please?
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Shamu
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Posted: February 21 2025 at 2:23pm |
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P.O.F= Pakistan Ordinance Factory. Not highly thought of, & both corrosive primed & cordite. It may, or may not be "click . . . BANG" or worse because of old primers. It would make decent plinking ammo as long as you clean for corrosive & don't expect stellar accuracy.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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DisasterDog
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Posted: February 21 2025 at 2:31pm |
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Try a few rounds & see, but there’s an old adage about POF standing for “Percentage Of Failure”, so if they’re bad you’re better off harvesting the projectiles than sitting waiting for them to maybe go bang.
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hoadie
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Posted: February 22 2025 at 5:08am |
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Shot some of that stuff @ Rhino's number of years back. It was a real treat: Click!...............wait for it....fizbang!! & it STUNK!(stank?)Smelled really bad!
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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SteveP02
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Posted: February 22 2025 at 10:26am |
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Oh wow, that saved me an expensive mistake. Really appreciate the insight and probably explains why two rounds were used before deciding to sell them on. Life is too short to fire bad ammunition.
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Shamu
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Posted: February 22 2025 at 1:22pm |
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POF gave me the weirdest "click . . . no BANG" ever a few years back. Pulled trigger <clik> beat 2 3 4 , nuttin. Pulled cocking piece back & fired again<clik>. Waited the 30 seconds & extracted round. Really solid deep F/P impression. Stood it on end on the front left corner of the bench for later disposal. A couple of MINUTES later I hear an odd noise & look at the case. Its wobbling! Rocking back & forth! Then there's a "POP" & the bullet jumps about 8" in the air & falls over. Then the horrible acrid smell & I get a "Roman Candle" effect from the now fired? case! It continued for several seconds, with the case beginning to glow red! It finally fell over & shot off the bench onto the floor, "rocket propelling" itself about 8' I guess. I just stared at it fascinated for the next act of the display.  When I looked up half the range was staring at me!
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Posted: February 22 2025 at 1:52pm |
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Back years ago in the 90's I used to get this ammo for free as no one wanted it.
I would pull the bullet, dump the powder in a ammo can, and scrap the cases. My sons used to make firecrackers and use it to burn out ant hills with the powder. |
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Posted: February 22 2025 at 2:02pm |
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Mine didn't have actual "powder", as I discovered when i tore one down. There was some oddball flakes with a strange green tint. I looked at one under considerable magnification & discovered it was shredded "Nitrate" Non Safety movie film stock.  Another round had both stick AND flake powder mixed inside it.  |
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SteveP02
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Posted: February 22 2025 at 2:54pm |
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That's so funny I may have to get some now
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Posted: February 24 2025 at 2:55am |
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Couldn`t imagine being a solder and being issued that crap...or maybe it was sold to their enemy`s. lol That being said, I was given some Pakky .308 `92 issue for free. Upon inspection it was just as horrible. I used it along with a bunch of 308 tracer and links to make a 220rnd display belt.
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Posted: February 24 2025 at 1:28pm |
The British army bought a quantity of POF 9mm back in the 1980's, apparently some of it was so under powered it failed to cock and fully eject in Sterling SMG's. |
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Posted: February 24 2025 at 1:51pm |
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I have never seen POF 9MM ammo.
I would be afraid to try it. |
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Posted: February 24 2025 at 2:38pm |
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Rhino had some for his Sterling..you'd get a couple rounds off & then it would "stovepipe" on ejection...OH, & did I say it smelled really bad as well?
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Posted: February 24 2025 at 3:35pm |
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It also depends on how it has been stored. I picked up a 768 round crate of POF 1968 ammunition, still sealed in its tin liner. Of those, I think I had two or three dud rounds and maybe 20 - 30 that were hang fires. Another shooter is using the exact same year and has the same experience as me. Others however, share similar experiences to others here.
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Posted: February 24 2025 at 3:59pm |
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Some primer compounds break down quicker than others. Even worse if stored in warm/hot conditions. Powder deteriorates too over time and as a function storage temp.
You take your chances buying old surplus ammunition, you don’t know the conditions it was stored in. I have a fair amount of WWII Canadian Mk 7z ball that still performs very well, for the reasons stated above. But, I also have some Berdan primed .577 Snider and .577-.450 MH that the primers just fizzle out like a slow fuse.
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Posted: February 24 2025 at 7:44pm |
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i w0nt shoot old corrosive in my ladst remaining items of my collection , i dont need to deal with that , i dont shoot mucxh black powder either - hate the cleanup .
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