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    Posted: August 12 2014 at 4:17am
What sort of accessories would WW2-era No. 1 Mk 3 have?  I'm not worried about socks 1, trousers, 1, boots 1, etc....  just the rifle.  Here's what I have so far:

- Canvas sling

- Cleaning kit

- Canvas carry case

- '07 bayonet

- Canvas action cover?

- Charger clips


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Muzzle cover.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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..Would "tampions" ever be used , Shamu?
Just wondering..they would be easy & real cheap to produce.(Although I haven't seen or heard of any after the uncivil war)
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i dont believe so hoadie , by that era those were obsolete , but this was the transition era of the mkIII* into no longer being produced execpt at lithgow and inda , so i may be wrong , 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sarge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2014 at 4:05pm
Accessories as issued:-
Brass or plastic oil bottle.
Pullthrough with either a Brass or White metal weight.
Muzzle cover.
Action cover.
Webbing rifle sling with either Brass or White metal fittings.
Pattern 1907 Sword Bayonet & Scabbard.

The charger clips were not accessories to the SMLE, but were a part of the ammunition supply.
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I don't think so, mate. By then the "Flanders Flap" or a canvas cover would probably be it.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hoadie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2014 at 10:02pm
Funny that...In the Navy, they "corked" the guns (essentially doing the same thing), in larger calibers, they used covers /plugs..wonder why they never explored the tampion?
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Thanks for the information guys.  I don't think I have ever seen a muzzle cover. Does anyone have pictures?  In what situation would it be used?  I would think you put the rifle in the canvas case and job done. 

And here was I, wondering why Hoadie was talking about tampons Shocked 

My first thought was it was some 'make do and mend' war emergency thing....

Silly me.  It was late, I'd had a beer or two!

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Here is the canvas cover, the Flanders Flap is a metal pop open "door".
http://www.lawranceordnance.com/shot_and_she!!/accessories_military/muzzle_cover.php

I actually just made a Tompion for my .50 Hawken, no one made them under .58 cal so I was forced to DIY!
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It's a bad link
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Weird! It worked earlier today because I checked it. Let me try again.
Hows this?
OK, no go. It works in the preview, but comes up bad after I post it???
Try this one instead, its probably a better link anyway.
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1304&idcategory=64
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That link works fine.

Are the muzzle and action covers for armoury storage or for field use? I heard they were avoided because they encouraged moisture build up and therefore corrosion.    
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Don't forget the condoms.
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

I don't think so, mate. By then the "Flanders Flap" or a canvas cover would probably be it.


Shamu... I'm an RM veteran.... I know the standard of '10.98' issue for my own countries weapons!
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The US military has been using condons as muzzle covers sence the 1930's.

Packed 144 to the case.

Cover the muzzle to get a shore and cover your friend when on shore leave.

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Sarge, I do believe that Shamu's response was directed at Hoadie's query on the tampions. That's how I took it anyway. We know you are a wealth of knowledge on this stuff.

BlackAck, I have many a book that shows the SMLE with action covers and muzzles covers in the field. Their purpose is to keep dirt, mud, etc out of the action and muzzle. There isn't any reason to have them on in an armory setting.
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