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Topkick 
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 Topic: Enfield rifle metal finishPosted: April 08 2014 at 9:43am |
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I've been reading replies about Enfield metal painting/coating. My question is - Has anyone out there actually repainted or recoated their enfield metal? If so what did you use (paint, ceracote), what manufacturer (Brownells?) and did you bake it? And were you pleased with the results?
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 6:32pm |
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I believe that LEs were parkerised, a phosphated finish n/that leaves the surface with a slightly textured surface.
This is available from Brownells but Ive not used it. I did see a Martini Henry that had been parkerised by a gunsmith here in Perth. It was a very nice job and looked right on that rifle.
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Zed
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 8:19pm |
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My Lithgow No2 MkIV* is parkerised, but the Faz No4 has whats left of a painted finish. It was "suncorite" I believe. Not sure if there was any special treatment before the paint though.
I would be interesetd to know what is the best option as well; because one of my No8's needs some refinishing on the barrel, due to poor quality paint being applied by the previous owner.
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 8:47pm |
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Search back the really old posts for a member called Aifwikir, he did a great job on his a couple of years back. The color & texture were a close to perfect match to the old Suncorite over park of the originals. Sadly he's passed on now, but the information should still be in the old threads. It was some kind of spray on baked finish but I forget exactly which one he used.
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 11:07pm |
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Id used Ceracoat in graphite if I were you. You'll need a sand blaster and a good paint gun plus an oven that will take the rifle. Any steel box will do with a heat gun and a cooking thermometer.
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Posted: April 09 2014 at 2:14am |
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This Enfield Savage No.4 Mk1* didn't have much finish on it when I purchased it, the stock was pretty much toast as well. But everything else was in perfect condition, especially the barrel.
So, new stock, re-finished it with phosphate using a pre-black first and it came out perfect. I phosphate most of my firearms for that extra protection.
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Posted: April 09 2014 at 4:03am |
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That looks like a great job. Is the phosphate process the same as parkerising? and what is the process using "pre-black"
Sorry if thats a stupid question but I find asking stupid questions the best way to learn stuff!!
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Posted: April 09 2014 at 4:37am |
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I think it's the same thing, most use that term for phosphating. There are two (2) types of phosphate.
Manganeze http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/parkerizing/parkerizing-supplies-only-prod24778.aspx and Zinc http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/parkerizing/zinc-phosphate-parkerizing-prod1106.aspx. The pre-black http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/parkerizing/zinc-parkerizing-pre-dip-blackener-prod57397.aspx?psize=96 is used after removing all oils and then blasting but before you place the metal into your "ZINC" phosphate bath (don't use with manganese).
It provides a uniform black color to your metal parts so that they look the same. Not so with just using either the manganese or zinc solutions by themselves. Just using the phosphate solutions by themselves can leave metals different colors from light grey to very dark grey in the very same batch.
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Posted: April 09 2014 at 4:42am |
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Thanks, I'll check it out.
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Posted: April 09 2014 at 7:09pm |
I don't know if this qualifies for what your asking, but I just refinished my #1 MkIII* Parker Hale sport. I had put it away in the case after a very wet week of hunting a couple years ago & forgot about it til April(5 months). The rust busted out thru the barrel - quite a mess. I stripped the barrel down to bare metal with NAVAL JELLY. I used emory paper to sand. I used a very light dremel on "suspect" dark spots. I then hand sanded again with emory paper. I cleaned it multiple times with methyl hydrate & tack cloths. I then hand blued it. I must say that I am VERY happy with the results. The colour matches well, & the blueing covered well. I used multiple coats of MARBLES gun oil post blueing. It took well as well. I had the stock re-done whilst I did this. I must say it actually looks like it just came from Parker Hale yesterday!  Hoadie |
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Posted: April 10 2014 at 3:51am |
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I'd like to see a photo of your finished rifle Hoadie. it sounds like a worthwhile job!
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Posted: April 10 2014 at 5:25am |
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I'd post one..but I'm a "technosaur" & therefore don't know how
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