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Being vindictive and protecting yourself from a malcontent are two totally different entities as is anger and hatred. You are allowed to be angered by what has been done to you and your are allowed to protect yourself from any further malicious acts. Protecting yourself by being assertive towards your aggressor even if that includes any physical contact in no way constitutes vindictiveness. You can only turn your cheek to have the other slapped so many times before you say that you've had enough. A bully will only be a bully as long as he has subjugated a person.  It is only when you confront that bully headlong, making him see and feel his past misdeeds  that he will no longer exist ...
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The above is very true. While the attacker did an excellent job covering his attacks, I worked through legitimate company resources. There were HR investigations, I got a caller ID phone for the harassing calls, the vandalism and sabotage were reported to HR and Plant security. The problem was corruption in a few levels of management that allowed it all to continue.

This is all a warning of what's to come on a more national level if the democrats steal the election. 
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I will not go into specifics here when I say that I was harassed and tormented both physically and mentally by one person. The hatred and contempt I harbored towards this person would have manifested itself in a very ugly form of vindictiveness had i not been shown a simple technique of removing ones self from the destructive path layed out by the perpetrator himself. These people seek attention and will stop at nothing to achieve their goal. To some degree,most are scared that they will be discovered to be nothing more than a plain ordinary person with no superpowers whatsoever and their lost attention from the one being manipulated will be their downfall. Everything this person had used as a means of controlling me both mentally and physically was lost the moment I openly challenged his authority with many witnesses gathered.  I had countless amounts of documented evidence of the torment i had endured and it was only then that the witnesses were finally able to put the pieces of the puzzle together and see that they too had been manipulated by this person as well. Those witnesses and myself did the one thing that this person had never thought of having happen to him. We/I left him to his own demise and no longer subjugate myself to his fear mongering and contemptible hatred by simply turning my back and walking away from this coward. I was able to use knowledge to rid myself of this unholy tormentor. If I would have been forced to physically defend myself, I would have because I was no longer in fear of this person. I was angry yet defended myself. I was not vindictive and I have absolutely no hatred for this person. Hate is an emotion and I have no emotions towards this person at all. 
Do yourself a favor and without any hate or miscontent, use his own decietfulness against himself. The truth will show itself when you least expect it to and those involved will no longer exist in your future. How you chose to complete this task is solely up to you however. Finding fault with this or that or having an excuse as to why this or that will only compound fault on top of fault and excuse on top of excuse and your bully will continue to have his way with you through manipulation of the system and his knowledge that you are afraid to act accordingly to have him removed from your life.. 
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I may be simplifying things, but as J.C. (Johnny Cash) says, "drive on!". No job is worth what you have gone thru. After a week or two of the issues, I would have pumped his peepers shut and never gave it a second thought. I would have moved on. I would never stay, endure, and not respond... my wife would be waiting outside my ex-workplace with a cooler of ice for my knuckles and the Help Wanted Adds... not in our DNA to take excessive s%#t from anybody. And I'm one of those polite Canucks! But we can only be pushed to far... 
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While I really wanted to beat this thug into the pavement, this was in a democrat controlled state. I would have been convicted of felony assault and battery, and a hate crime which would impose far more serious penalties since the culprit is a minority. Additionally, the management were complicit in the harassment by protecting the culprit.

My situation was compounded by a family situation that pretty much forced me to stay, or face divorce and other problems.

I grew up in an abusive household, so I guess I can endure far more than most folks would.
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Originally posted by Smokey Smokey wrote:

While I really wanted to beat this thug into the pavement, this was in a democrat controlled state. I would have been convicted of felony assault and battery, and a hate crime which would impose far more serious penalties since the culprit is a minority. Additionally, the management were complicit in the harassment by protecting the culprit.
 

Defense against an attack,(you contracted Lyme disease) would not see you arrested. He instigated the attack that left you with a disease.  If you had a real good lawyer, you could get him charged with attempted homicide. 

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My situation was compounded by a family situation that pretty much forced me to stay, or face divorce and other problems.[/QUOTE]

 Family is no excuse to stay in a sh*t situation and divorce would be a blessing. 

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I grew up in an abusive household, so I guess I can endure far more than most folks would.[/QUOTE] 

My long winded comment is based off of the fact that my dad physically and mentally abused me for decades. He is vindictive, full of contempt and hatred,blames me for everything that went wrong in his life,including his infidelities and divorcing my mom. I did not physically retaliate, I just used his own words and actions against him. It lost me a wife, a sister, a small trucking company, friends, and a fairly well off pension upon retirement.  The upside is that I am free of the abuse and drama, I am finally happy and content, I am engaged to my high school sweetheart, and I endured a near fatal trucking accident that has left me permanently disabled and semi retired.  The downside? There is none.
 Always look for the silver lining .  
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I discussed the whole situation with a lawyer. Basically there just wasn't enough evidence against the individual to go for a lawsuit. As far as taking any action against the culprit, the state I was in does not permit any violence unless I'm actually being physically attacked and credibly in fear of my life. Deer ticks "appearing" in my chair is not a justification. It is a democrat controlled state.

As far as the family situation goes, I took a sacred vow before God, my wife, a priest and a churchfull of witnesses; for better of worse. Too bad things went bad. That vow still stands.
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Originally posted by Smokey Smokey wrote:

I discussed the whole situation with a lawyer. Basically there just wasn't enough evidence against the individual to go for a lawsuit. As far as taking any action against the culprit, the state I was in does not permit any violence unless I'm actually being physically attacked and credibly in fear of my life. Deer ticks "appearing" in my chair is not a justification. It is a democrat controlled state.

As far as the family situation goes, I took a sacred vow before God, my wife, a priest and a churchfull of witnesses; for better of worse. Too bad things went bad. That vow still stands.
I took a sacred vow before God,and some witnesses as well. On three separate occasions too. The first wife decided that she had enough of being married to a male and with the help of her Catholic church,had the marriage annulled after only five months of marriage so she could pursue other women. To the Catholics and in God's eye,that marriage doesn't count.  The next two attempts at a successful marriage both ended in similar fashion with both women seeking out other men for companionship while I was driving trucks over the road 5 to 8 weeks at a time. Sometimes you just have look at the situation at hand and say to yourself, "No use in crying over spilled milk,this situation is tits up!" and move on in your life.
[As far as taking action against the culprit, the state I was in does not permit any violence unless I'm actually being physically attacked and credibly in fear of my life.]  Does this STATE also dictate where you can live,take a dump, and eat? Just not enough evidence against the perpetrator to go for a lawsuit does not constitute not sticking up for and defending yourself against this person because of his ethnicity or whether or not the state votes democrat, republican, bipartisan, or liberal. 
I personally do care what color your skin is or how you vote.  If you take time out of your life to upset and damage my life, rest assured I will return the favor regardless of what the state thinks otherwise. 
You have ultimately decided your own fate in this matter that you yourself have brought forth and presented us with here on this forum and so it shall be. I myself have merely offered up a solution to your situation.  I have said all I can say on the subject and will say no more. Good luck on your future endeavors...

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Left wing, right wing politics, God, marriage... life, really, in general, can throw you many, many curve balls. The one and only thing a man, and this has been since the beginning of man is, you must forge your path thru life from experience. The man you become is developed early. 18? 20? If life takes you off that path you've forged for yourself, you must do whatever needs to be done to correct the direction it's taken if contrary to your beliefs. As a man, you can only truly trust one person... you. If it was me, I would have dealt with everything you've shared with us way earlier... and way differently. I wish you all the best...
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