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mauserdad
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Just acquired a 1947 in very good shape. It is import marked. All metal has matching numbers including the clip. First off, is I cant find the production figures for 1947. Is there a yearly production table? Second, the bottom wood appears to have been replaced, forearm and butt stock. The forearm underneath is marked DP ( Drill Purpose?). I read some where that Springfield Sporters sold this wood. What is the story behind this? So India did not install this DP wood? What type of wood was this? Wood is bigger than the brass butt plate. This is not a DP rifle. It came with a cloth sling marked J&A.H.1944 arrow right. Tan colored. Also had a plastic oiler and pull through cord, Also received 100rds of 1950 FN ammo. I feel I go a great deal for $200. The metal has caked black grease all over. The stock had been varnished. Used a chemical stripper and removed. In process of hand rubbing BLO. This will make a fine addition to my Enfield collection. Thanks for any help. Sorry for the long post. Ed
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A square 10
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ed , no problem with length of post but there is a lot to cover here -
there are production figures by year in the straton collector series - not absolute but best available so far , i no longer have my copy it resides with another collector here , perhaps he will add to this post , india was producing then , i suspect the timber was replaced after civilian purchase , the indians did not put the DP wood on it , not surprising its outsized but it could be fitted ? and little idea without photos of whose wood it was , thus the type cant be identified but a lot of DP wood came from early rifles and it could well be walnut , sounds like you got a good buy to me , would love to see your refinish if you can post photos , |
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mauserdad
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Sir, thank you for your response. I kind of figured it was a civilian installed stock especially after reading a posting about Springfield Sporters. Again thank you and maybe others will comment.
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mauserdad
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I will try to post Pic's when I have finished cleaning her up.
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Goosic
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Do not unscrew the buttstock first . You will crack the forestock.
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mauserdad
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Thank you Sir. Yep, the butt stock is the last piece I remove thankfully. Never knew what you said.
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mauserdad
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Gents here are pictures of the wood and the sling. Still trying to determine wood type and pr0duction figure for 1947. Thanks. Ed
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A square 10
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looks walnut to me but i could be wrong
thats a bantam buttstock unless im seeing wrong ,
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mauserdad
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That's what I am thinking. But I understand they used other native hardwoods which I do not know what they look like. Thanks for the response.
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britrifles
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Don’t think I’ve seen that wavy grain pattern thats on the forend before. Butt stock does look like oak. Nice shape too.
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Honkytonk
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That is really nice wood!
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mauserdad
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Thanks Gents. what does coachwood look like?
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Shamu
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A bit similar to walnut, but the heartwood is almost purple.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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mauserdad
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Thank you Sir. Still cant find any production figures for 1937. I was informed on another board the sling is a reproduction.
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Bear43
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Production figures for Ishapore rifles are difficult to find at best. The Indians to this day are very, very secretive about arms production both past and present. Considering that RFI is still an active state manufacturer I highly doubt we will see true production numbers anytime soon.
I will look up the numbers that Stratton lists in his book. As A_Square said, that is the best data set on Indian production to date.
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The Armourer
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He is getting the same answer on each of the forums where he has asked the question. It may not be the answer he would prefer, but at least it is consistent.
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