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Andrew157
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Posted: February 20 2021 at 7:46am |
i just pick up my first lee enfield i was told it was a no4.mk1 here some of the pic i took any info be great on the marking as i do not know anything about them
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hoadie
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he!!o & good day...Welcome..
Is it I, or are the pictures out of focus & too dark? |
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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Honkytonk
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Welcome from Brandon, Manitoba, Canada!
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SGonger
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My photo’s are the same as you stated,kinda hard to decipher.👍
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Anyone seen the Tardis Box anywhere? 🤨
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Honkytonk
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Although there are infinitely smarter people on this site in regards to identification, I'll give it ago. It does indeed appear to be a No4 Mk1. I think I see a date of '47 on the wrist band, which would indicate it had been factory inspected, refurbished after the war. It also has a full length barrel (bayonet lug) which is good. Does it have a full wood stock? I believe the markings on the muzzle end of the barrel indicate it was destined for export... to the more knowledgeable, let me know how I did on my assessment! Also, I noticed the rifle is cocked. You don't want to store it like that as it is hard on parts. With the safety off (lever forward) open the bolt. ENSURE RIFLE IS UNLOADED! With the trigger depressed, close the bolt. Rifle is now uncocked. There are other ways to uncock, but this way you can check the chamber.
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Goosic
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I believe I see N47 on top 1943 below that and NB147** below that. Maltby serial number is what I see...
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Honkytonk
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The stamp on the muzzle confirms it was exported to Century Arms International, Saint Albans, Vermont.
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Andrew157
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it dose have the full wood stock also has the marking JC behind Triger guard on the wood stock and i did uncock it thanks for the tip there!
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Andrew
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Andrew157
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its either a m47 or a n even though i am looking at it right now i more thank its a m but very hard to tell the one below is a NB147 and next one down is the same nb147
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Andrew157
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its very hard get the pictures to focus and still very hard to read them in person haha
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Shamu
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these are the makers codes.
1-= Maltby Or: All factories in the North were
prefixed with a "N", those in the Midlands were prefixed by
"M" and those in the South prefixed by "S" |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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SGonger
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Howdy believe (without seeing it) it’s a John Curtis & son’s furniture mark,there might (should be) be a (N22 code mark) next (or below) the JC. Cheer’s.
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Anyone seen the Tardis Box anywhere? 🤨
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A square 10
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i was about to add what shamu beat me to , its important data save it ,
most small parts were made by different factories during the war , BSA was "dispersing" production throughout the country during the bombing , so the N#[north] , M3[middle] , S#[south] , were codes for the various factories , gave a clue to where those factories were located ,again they were small parts like trigger guard , sights , barrel bands , so you may see a number of different codes on a single rifle depending on where those parts were made , these are not anything more than that but no less either , the wrist markings give the manufacturer for BSA and Maltby , maltby had a tendency to sloppy markings , that said the rifles are great , bear is our resident researcher of maltby , he is writing a book and i hope you get some great closeups for him , what shamu gave on serial numbers are awarded contracts that dictated the serial number ranges each were to produce in ,the other data that honky tonk and others refer to are the import marks required to get them into civilian hands after 'sold out of service' , its all important ,
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