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Strangely Brown
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Because each Vickers had only a certain amount of ammunition I think they dispensed with the water cans and tubes to vent the steam back into the cans. That's an assumption on my part gleamed from a conversation I half heard!
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shiloh
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"Fire one round or a thousand, you still gotta clean `em". Thats what my SGM used to always say to us with a big grin on his face
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Lead from the front; eliminate all obstacles...
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scottz63
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Very cool. Thanks for posting!
I saw the water as well and thought it might be a leaking water jacket.
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14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer
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Zed
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Great to see these in action. When so many have been chopped.
You certainly don't want to be on the wrong end of those! Thanks for sharing the video.
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i would love to have spent more time with john sukey , he had so many things we speak of here but dont own nor ever will , that man was a wealth of enfield knowledge , he came here late and i miss him a lot , MJ will chime in as he knew him well too , we can only dream of what that man owned in his lifetime ,
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Strangely Brown
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I first came across John Sukey on the old "Gun & Knife" forum along with MJ; I was pretty new to the internet back then and was surprised to find so many people from across the pond with an interest in Enfield's. John came to the UK some years ago for a reenactment display to do with Victorian artillery which as an ex gunner was close to my heart; we often discussed things like the "Screw Gun" made famous by Kipling in one of his poems. |
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vickersmg
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If you’re free on Wednesday evening (8pm UK time) and want to find out more about how we planned and delivered the 16 #VickersMG shoot at Bisley on 3 July, then join me on a livestream chat. |
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Zed
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sounds great; I'll try and tune in!
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Honkytonk
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The Vickers is iconic... was the Lewis Gun considered a good weapon?
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hoadie
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From what I have read, it was terribly inaccurate. But methinks the idea was to keep the enemy's head down. |
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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Honkytonk
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I watched a show yesterday on the demise of the Red Baron in WW1. Interesting. in this show, it was suggested he may have been was shot down from the ground by an Australian soldier and I think it was with a Lewis Gun. I'm not sure if it was an old show and they have since proven or disproved this theory, but it was an interesting watch!
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shiloh
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I watched that show and found it intriguing, the way forensics was used to determine the Barons death on 100+ years old indecent reports, how the low entry and high exit of the lethal shot could have only come from a ground based shot. But will that change the history or the story telling, most likely not.
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Lead from the front; eliminate all obstacles...
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Shamu
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A machine gun isn't supposed to be "rifle Accurate", there's no point in putting 5 or 6 rounds through the same hole! Cone of fire was the term, I believe. Also the Lewis was a light machine gun, the Vickers a heavy, so there's more differences there. The only bad thing I ever heard about them was the mechanical complexity internally "42 moving parts, 42 ways to jam"!
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Honkytonk
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So a Lewis Gun was the Bren Gun of that era?
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Shamu
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Pretty much. It was the first "real gun" I ever fired! My grandfather took me to the range where I loaded drums all morning (regimental Powder monkey ) & got to shoot it in the afternoon, very ,very closely supervised! I was returned home all beat up, filthy & grinning from ear to ear. My grandmother supposedly didn't speak to him for a whole week! She tried to "scrub that stupid grin from my face" with stiff brushes & carbolic soap I was lobster red but still grinning! You definitely didn't want to let that "Clock Spring" get away from you, to the point it was permanently sealed tensioned & only removed as a complete sub assembly! |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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vickersmg
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The live Q&A ended up here: https://youtu.be/1njLHKuOYIo
As to the Lewis gun, our opinion: Good gun as a light automatic. Bad machine gun. Tried to use it for too much sustained fire when first introduced (as it was considered like-for-like with the Vickers) and this reputation affected it for many years after. When realised in the later part of the war that it was used at a section level, it was ideal, if too heavy for an 'assault' weapon.
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