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    Posted: September 19 2022 at 10:07pm
no 4s that have been imported by navy arms , im not sure if this ins new info or not , just a heads up onwhat i saw , 
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I’ll have to look for that, not got Oct issue of American Rifleman yet.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2022 at 9:17am
I posted a link to the article on a thread last week.
The link was on "milsurps"
I'd like to have a close look at those rifles!
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Gone now?
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Is this the "resistance cache that was "lost/hidden" & never used"?
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https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/french-enfields-the-navy-arms-no-4s/

Prices start at $995, only a few rifles are that price, the next step is at $1100 and continues to increase for different individual rifles.  Looks like they are selling fairly quickly. 
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If that link doesn’t work, just search on Navy Arms Lee Enfield. 
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It works, it's a good linkThumbs Up
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Seems this is setting a new high for the market price for a No. 4 rifle in the US. 

I suppose they do have a bit of a unique history, although not easy to prove later on unless the purchaser keeps the sales record and the website print out showing the serial number from Old Western Scrounger that these were part of the French Resistance drop. 
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IIRC Zed mentioned those real resistance drop rifles had some unique markings?
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

IIRC Zed mentioned those real resistance drop rifles had some unique markings?

There're marked PP which on post war (1951) No.4 MkII's is a prefix for special orders: 

PP1 ~ PP43 Parker-Hale
PP44 ~ PP47 (unknown source UK)

Whether the two are connected nobody (so far) seems to know. 


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If these rifles were dropped into the french resistance, this will have been organised by the British SOE 
(Special Operations Executive)  they probably dropped in Bren light machine guns, sten guns and grenades at the same time.  
Sadly there is very little information on these SOE activities, most records were destroyed when SOE was rapidly disbanded.
No doubt many of these rifles just disappeared as the war ended and still sit hidden away in french roof spaces, farm sheds etc, just in case war reappeared again and still sit slowly rusting away.
I wonder if the magazines were removed and discarded as a means of rendering them unusable at the time. 
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There were thousands of rifles, Stens and Bren's dropped.
Many of the drops fell straight into the German or Vichy collaborators hands. 
I suspect that these may have been recovered rifles. Marked and stored. The Resistance did not put serial numbers on their rifles. 
My Resistance No4 has only manufacturers marks and military proof, arrow etc. Obviously no civilian proofs or stamp's.
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