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Shongololo1983
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Super thank you very very much.
Sorry for my late reply been a bit crazy around here these last few days.
Thanks again!
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Springbok stuck in the cold
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Shamu
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My buddy is back from vacation & sent me a shed load of pics so here you go.
The folder used was made by Choate Machine & Tool, but he doesn't have the exact model number. Unfortunately as he's passed away the original owner's secrets are a bit hard to uncover.
Maybe you can ID the exact model from the pics as there are several of them showing it from different views.
The barrel was shortened quite a bit & it's described as "Quite accurate, once dialled in, but a fire-breather" Not too surprising in a carbine length 45-70
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Cookie Monster
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That is not a bad looking stock.
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Hatchetman
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Wow, that looks like a complete mongrel of a thing to shoot... I would still have a go if offered
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But the winters coming,
And the snow will cover tracks, And I'll be watching, Because I'm hunting you - Sarah Blasko, The Gardens End |
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Shongololo1983
Newbie Joined: July 30 2009 Location: RSA/Canada Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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Thanks Shamu
And say thank you to your friend as well.
I can see why this stock will be the one to go with, it rides below the bolt handle so you dont need to worry about it being in the way of the bolt handle.
The bubba'd rifle I have now has a 20" barrel but I think I am going to cut it back to 18" The flash will not affect me much for what I have in mind for this gun.
Now the quest for finding that same stock begins...
I will update you guys when it's all done.
Cheers
Shongololo
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Springbok stuck in the cold
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Cookie Monster
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Has the metal been cut or altered? |
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Shamu
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On the folding stock, or on the rifle?
It looks like the changes were limited to filling the socket in some way & then adding a large washer or round plate to give the buttstock something solid to fit against. A couple of the close up pics of the joint seem to show a wood or other filler in the socket behind the big round "recoil plate".
Knowing the guy who did this if he altered anything it'd have been the front of the hinge on the folding stock, in case he needed to change the angle of a stock that wasn't designed for an Enfield.
To me the pics show an unaltered reciever, anyone else?
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Cookie Monster
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If the metal has not been cut or altered you can return the rifle to its original state
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Kodiac400
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Now that's a wild looking rifle if I ever seen one. Are rifles like that legal in Canada?
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Richard/SIA
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My take, and no offense meant, but-
1. It's scarcely any shorter than my collapsing stock set when it's collapsed. 2. It appears that the stock is mounted low to stay under the bolt handle, adding to recoil and muzzle climb. 3. That butt appears very narrow and HARD, like an old #5 butt, I suspect it will leave a mark! Let us know how it works out when you duplicate it.
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At over $3.00 a gallon for gas, I want it leaded, 100 octane, and my windshield washed!
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TRX
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I'm not getting any pictures, just little blocks. Did the pictures go away, or do I need to do something special to see them?
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Shamu
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They were old pictures hosted on a remote site & I needed the space for something else so they were deleted from the hosting site, just like the sticker says.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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charly45
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Hey guys just found this on gun broker
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Im here to kick a$$ and chew bubble gum, and im alll out of bubble gum!!
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LE Owner
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The 1911 isn't a good pistol for hot loads anyway. When the design was revamped from an experimental .40 caliber the larger .45 chamber cut away a bit too much near the dimple like continuation of the feed ramp, this leaves an unsupported portion right at the junction of web and casewall.
Don't know if this would be a factor with the Enfield conversion barrels or not.
The friend with the Detonics pistol had considered building a more correct replica of the Delise carbine, but he planned to chamber his for the .45 Colt revolver cartridge and use a modded Enfield mag along with the shortened bolt body and exposed shank of the original design.
We'd discussed opening up the bulkhead and rails to allow a thicker walled shank so pressures could be stepped up a mite.
I have a usable No.1 action from a non restorable rifle, the face of the receiver ring was damaged and a standard replacement barrel won't clock in.
I've considered several possibilities including a Delise conversion, but I hope to find a barrel blank suitable for building a .32 Winchester Special, mainly because that cartridge and its twist is very well suited to cast bullets and lower velocity small game loads as well as the full power loads that exceed the energy of the .30-30, blanks big enough in dia for an Enfield shank with .321 bores with a 1:16 twist aren't a common item though.
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mfezi
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I see these posts are from many moons ago. Anyway, here's pic of a folding stock/pistol grip manufactured in South Africa for No 1 Mk3's and No 4's. The stock is straight from our national service rifle, the R4 (similar to the Galil) but the rest of the components are specially manufactured. The previous owner was obviously not enamored with the kick from such a setup, as can be seen from the foam taped to the butt. Not sure who made them nor whether they are still being made. At one stage these converted 'bakkie rifles' with shortened barrels were popular with farmers for security purposes but our new restrictive firearms laws have probably resulted in many of these being handed in for destruction (or sold by the police to criminals).
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Shamu
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I found this while surfing on another forum.
#5 Mk.II take down rifles. Yes there really is such a thing as a #5 Mk.II, strictly a development prototype thing but they did exist. |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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