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BluntForceTrauma
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Posted: August 05 2012 at 1:12am |
So, I was at the Tanner gun show in Denver yesterday and came across a rifle marked $75. I'm always looking for "A Deal" so I just paid up. What's the worst, I'm out $75 fr a wall hanger.
No magazine came with the rifle but the bore and furniture both looked to be in decent shape. Did a little shopping around (gun show after all) and found a 10 round magazine that fit properly. The barrel is marked, very faintly SANTA FE MOUNTAINEER GOLDEN STATE ARMS CORP. PASADENA CALIF "303BR" (Of Course) Also, "3604" on the left hand side of the receiver where the barrel mates to it. I assume this is the Serial #. The receiver has no other markings other than England on the right hand side where the Bolt turns down. The bolt is marked "5" in two places Also, a small 2 If anyone knows anything about this rifle, specifically the year it might have been manufactured, that is information I would like to have. I read that Golden state imported quite a few Enfield actions after WWII and used them to build sporterized rifles in the 50's and 60's but nothing more specific about the company. Neither could I find anything that gave me the impression this is any kind of collectible and so I plan on using it as a shooter. My main concern is ammunition. I already reload .308, .223, and a handful of handful of pistol calibers and based on the prices I'm finding, I will without doubt be researching loads for the .303. It looks as though the MilSurp has dried up. If anyone has any information to the contrary, I'd love to hear about it. |
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White Rhino
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Blunt force , You made a very good deal there !!! what did you pay for the Mag?????
I have yet to get that lucky at a Gun Show !!! Lately any how ...... but did find an Enfield mag for $10.00 once ...snatched it up fast !!! And as for Mil - Surp ammo , I would have to check one of my sources and get back to you on that .... |
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"White Rhino"
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White Rhino
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Blunt Force , it looks as though I am the only Dealer left with Mil - Surp ammo ..... My wholesaler I used to get it from is out and has been since I got Cookie Monster a 360 round ammo box of it ....at around the same time I ordered 2000 rounds of loose ammo , and bag it to sell in my store ....
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"White Rhino"
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BluntForceTrauma
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Rhino, I paid $40 for the mag. Not knowing what what the prospects of finding one were, I didn't haggle since it was the last one the guy had. Still, $115 out the door for a firearm in better than average condition. I'm notorious for snagging those deals. That's about what I paid for my M91/30 and I don't think it near as quality a rifle as the Mountaineer.
I did find that ProMag Industries is making an aftermarket #4 MK1 magazine and is selling them on their website for $32 http://www.promagindustries.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ENF+04&CartID=1 Also found a couple on eBay for $35 plus shipping. Since it's a bolt gun, I may pick up a spare magazine or two but I don't feel I need the full load out I keep for the semi's. |
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Cookie Monster
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As far as Mil surp ammo goes it was not bad !
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A square 10
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santa fe is one of the more respected of the sporter supply houses , they chopped original rifle to make them more desireable to hunters , they have developed into a collecting area all their own , congrats - good buy
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Shamu
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Try the "Prvi Partizan" commercial it's good stuff usually available at gunshows & reasonably priced. The brass is reloadable too.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Revolver
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I have had for about 20 years what I believe is the same rifle as you
SANTA FE MOUNTAINEER GOLDEN STATE ARMS CORP. PASADENA CALIF 303BR 3779 Really wish I could date the year of manufacture. Haven't been able to find any magazines at the gun shows. Haven't been able to locate any info regarding the serial number. Bummer |
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Goosic
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The Santa Fe division of Golden State Arms converted various milsurp rifles to sporters from the 50's to the late 60's. Your rifle would fall into the mid 50's category of manufacture from the serial number.
There is a five round Santa Fe magazine on eBay right now too.
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Shamu
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Remember you will probably have to do a little "tweaking" with non-matching magazines. They were serial number matched to the individual rifle for just that reason. I believe all the Golden State guns ere no4's not No1's? If so any No4 or No5 magazine should fit except as mentioned. This is my No5 "Goobermint Model Sporter" with a 5-round Santa Fe mag. |
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Goosic
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My Santa Fe Special with a new Boyd stock, 20" barrel with a reproduction No5MkI flash hider and Lyman ivory bead front sight,reproduction No4Mk1 T scope mount with pads,and the venerable Santa Fe 5round magazine.
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Canuck
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Beauty of a rifle, Goosic!
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Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually
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Honkytonk
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Goosic... beautiful! Front ivory bead sight. With a scope mounted, does this rifle have a "manual" rear site to utilize it? I ask because I made a "scout" rifle out of an old No4 and kept the front site for looks but removed the rear in lieu of a scope. Thanks!
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Goosic
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A just in case sight...
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