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Really great thread.
Thanks to Shamu etal.
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For the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon.
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britrifles
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I wished I had learned to shoot left handed. I’m left eye dominant and I have to close my left eye to shoot. My right eye is also much more far sighted.
One of my Dads shooting friends could shoot ambidextrous, when his right eye got tired in a match, he would just switch sides. Rapid fire stages must be difficult left handed!
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hey guys it is not an easy skill to shooot left and right handed. I need to get some more practice on it but when I regularly shot pistol with a buddy of mine who is a federal prison officer I taught him how to shoot both hands with pistol rifle and shotgun . He ended up topping his class in shooting left and right handed .as a young country boy we would shoot from motor cycles so hand to learn left handed .
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Shamu
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Absolutely! The skills of "Rifelry" are being lost.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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My dad taught me to shoot ambidextrously. It is a definitive plus when needed.
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Shamu
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Right hand was preferred & encouraged, but we had southpaw shouters in matches in the 1960's. To a "Rightie" it looked incredibly uncomfortable & clumsy, but for them it worked. I have a friend thats forced to be cross dominant because of an eye injury to this right eye. He taught himself to shout Southpaw! You should see him a barricade stations! Switch hitter is a valuable skill to gain.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Goosic
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Alot of snipers of yore were in fact left handed. Retrained to fire right handed and as such became ambidextrous shooters. It paid off in spades for some.
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WilliamS
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That scene stood out to me as well! I would have thought for sure they wouldn't have allowed left-handedness at that point.
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Goosic
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I watched Crocodile Dundee 2 last night. Mick had the No4Mk1 with the thumbhole stock and if you look closely, Sue is holding a P14.
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I was rewatching Peter Jackson's movie "They shall not grow old" and they talked about the Mad Minute. One scene had about a half dozen soldiers prone shooting... one was a southpaw!
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Shamu
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That was only part of it. There were other drills as well. Fully training an expert rifleman could take a couple of years. "The classification shoot was shot in
several stages shot out to 600 yards, the various stages or serials
were laid out in Table B, Appendix II in the Musketry Regulations
Pt.1, these included grouping with 5 rounds at 100 yards, snap
shooting with 5 rounds out at 200 yards, two 5 round stages fired
slowly with the first at 400 yards from the prone position and
another at 300 yards from kneeling. Then came the so called
‘Mad Minute’ stage fired from prone at a target 300 yards out.
This was to be fired with 5 rounds loaded - 1 in the chamber and 4 in
the magazine, the rifleman would then reload with 5-round chargers
firing until 60 seconds had elapsed. The target used for this
stage was the Second Class figure target which was a 4 foot
screen with a 12 inch high figure silhouette at the centre surrounded
by two rings, a 23 inch inner ring and a 36 inch outer ring.
This stage was then followed by three final stages fired from prone
out to 500 and 600 yards."
https://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/43102565094/the-mad-minute-marksmanship-training-in-the
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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RayR
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Thanks for the compilation of this information.
I thought the British Soldiers got a higher pay rate if they passed the " mad minute" range test. Do you know if this was true? |
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Semper Fi
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hi i have that book there is some good reading in it
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Shamu
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It looks like a 'Tate & Lyles" (Warrant Officer's) insignia above a set of good conduct (not rank) chevrons. Similar to the U.S. "Hershey bar" insignia. The Good-Conduct stripe was a British Army award for good conduct
during service in the Regular Army by an enlisted man. The insignia was
a points-up chevron of NCO's lace worn on the lower sleeve of the
uniform jacket. It was given to Privates and Lance Corporals for 2, 6,
12, or 18 years' service without being subject to formal discipline British rank insignia is bigger & worn higher over the bicep, & is pointed down like US rank. We don't have the curved top section like us forces do for tech ranks I think?
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Shamu
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Agreed, there's more than one way to skin a cat. If you use the "right hand free" method you also have to use the other elbow under the rifle though or you're using a bipod with one leg folded! If I'm doing anything other than "Rapid Fire" I use the tripod firing position shown above.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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I could be wrong here.(Once I thot I was wrong - but I was mistaken) He looks to be a SWO (judging by the badge on his sleeve |
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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