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8bore
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Posted: July 05 2016 at 5:36am |
Hi there, we are new to this forum and are wanting to find out any information about a Snider with a left hand action in 8 gauge. It has British Ordanance mark along with HMS stamp behind the tang, Sold out of Service mark and anchor stamps on barrel, action, lock and stock. If there is anyone who can help identify it, that would be great. The only anchor mark we can find on the internet pertains to the Civil War America, and that is a different anchor to the one on this gun.
Thanks ahead, I cannot seem to find where to add photos, but they are available. |
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Pukka Bundook
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he!!o and welcome 8-bore.
We do need pictures of this! If you PM me, I will send you my email and you can send pics for me to post if you can't get it sorted. Cheers, Richard.
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hoadie
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It SOUNDS like it was used as an Breeches rope t**ser for the Royal Navy.
(2 Ships side by each. To transfer goods & people you would have to tether together. The initial ball of rope being shot over by large bore gun. Ropes then pulled across.) |
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hoadie
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Ok..censored..how bout THROWER?
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Shamu
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or To$$er
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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8bore
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Hi all, we had looked at it being a line throwing gun, we discussed that with the people in England at the National Museum Royal Navy, but they still could not figure out why it would be left handed and also why they would use a massive 8 gauge for it, there is also no rope 'holding ring' on the side of the stock for the purpose of throwing the rope. They also have all the records for their rope throwers.
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Pukka Bundook
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Here is the Snider, Very clean and a bit of a mystery at present!
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Pukka Bundook
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What we need Lou, are clearer photos of the proofs.
I can't tell for sure if the one mark is the Birmingham provisional proof or the earlier definitive proof. BO marks are a bit suspect in my view! More pictures; |
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Pukka Bundook
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Last ones;
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What I don't understand with this one, is the apparent crowned BP which is the Birmingham Provincial Proof under the 1954 Rules of Proof, along with the post 1813 and up to 1904 Birmingham view mark.
If you can supply us with close ups of all these marks Lou, it would help a lot. It appears a very well made piece. The B of O stamp has to be spurious, as the Board of Ordnance ceased to exist in 1855. Can you show us the buttplate tang as well please, Lou? It Is a mystery at present! Richard.
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paddyofurniture
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Converted military rifle?
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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Pukka Bundook
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Too big and left-handed Paddy.
Some Alexander Henry military arms came out with left -hand locks, but don't know of any Sniders. Commercial proofs as well, but one proof we need to see clearer. |
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Just sayin..I've seen pics of LEE ENFIELDS with left hand ops.(combat/dessert).
I found that odd..folks said I had looked at a reversal. The late Bob Camp (BME, R/SgtM Red Devils) told me there was a few lads he knew that were left hand equipped. I have never seen in person an actual left hand action L/E. So..That leads me to believe that there may have been an "specialty shop" operation in the L/E world |
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8bore
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With the demise of the Board in 1855, the War Department and today's Ministry of Defence continued to use the mark.
This is what we found out about for the BO marks, so yes the Board ceased in 1855 but the mark continued with the War Department. We will use chalk to highlight them better in the photos for you. |
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Pukka Bundook
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8 Bore,
Thanks for that, re. the B of O mark! Here are close-ups of the proofs etc. I think the '6' is a '9', as a 9-bore barrel will be an 8-bore chamber if you know what I mean! (Like many 12 -bores are actually 13-bore barrels.) |
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Pukka Bundook
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Has the 1813 -1904 Birmingham commercial proofs, but also the "BP" which I believe was used from 1925 to 1981, and why is a bit unclear at present.
No inspection marks on the metalwork, only some on the wood. Lock seems commercial as well. Seems a gun made by the trade for whatever purpose. Very well made, but the wood has me foxed! How long is the barrel, Lou?
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