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A square 10
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Posted: October 24 2019 at 6:55pm |
that is a rare bird , would love to find one but ive not been searching in the last ten years so doubt ill get so lucky ,
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Sarge
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Ayup chaps,
Retracing our steps a tad, and in connection to an earlier comment made by 'A square 10' about Vickers made P1913's. I've searched through my files and located a couple of pic's of the relevant ricasso stampings. So, due to the Vickers-P13 extreme rarety, here is what you will see should you ever have the fortune to come across such an example... Left ricasso... Right ricasso... |
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This is MY rifle, there are many like, but this one... is MINE!
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A square 10
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you could also seek out a P1903 , 12" blade , its a P1888 with the grip of a P1907 , just a thought , would be perfectly acceptable on that rifle , second from the left
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smerdon42
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honkytonk you should be able to find a post war 1907 cheap some have a clipped front that was done during the second war. But most are just regular bayonets
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Shamu
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In UK service bayonets weren't "matched" to a particular rifle. The same bayonet could have been issued with several rifles. As long as its a Pat '07 for an SMLE (no grooves in the handle. Those are cut for the P-14 or the M1917 rifles) "scales" you will be fine. I agree an Aussie one would be a nice touch though. |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Honkytonk
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Thanks! I'll open the floor to a model of bayonet, for a wall hanger, would be appropriate for a Lithgow No1 MkIII*? I trust the forums judgment!
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Sarge
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Hmm.. A bit of a conundrum this one. As the SMLE is dated to just after WW1, I personally would opt for the WW2 dated '07' At the end of the day though... it's your choise. |
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Honkytonk
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The right side of the wrist band says:
LITHGOW SHT.LE III* 1919 Thanks!
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Sarge
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he!!o 'Honkytonk',
Well, it depends upon what date your Mk3* is! If it's WW1 dated, then a 'Lithgow' WW1 dated. If WW2 dated, then an Australian manufacture WW2 example, 'MA' or 'OA' and dated. |
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Honkytonk
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I know I've asked before, but what would be the correct bayonet I would want for my No1 MkIII* Lithgow? I don't need a museum piece, just one to hang on my Man-Cave wall beside my Boker V42 replica. Thanks!
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Sarge
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he!!o 'Witjr',
As has been mentioned, 'Vickers' was one of the original manufacturers of the P1913 bayonet. However, they are quite rare, and very rarely seen. In all my decades of collecting, I have only seen one example in real life. The other two manufacturers are 'Winchester' and 'Remington', with the former being the rarer of the two. Here are examples of there respective markings... Winchester... Remington... |
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Shamu
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Its a repro (sort of, a bit of a fantasy item really) I found it on E-Bay. Also available here: |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Whitjr
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Thank you, Shamu.
That is a dandy frog. Where did you find that? Looks like one a palace guard would have.
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Shamu
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The images are here, just click on the links to view. The clue is the "stripes" cut into the wood handles, those inform this is for a P-14, not a Lee Enfield. Those have plain wood, like this. |
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Whitjr
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After reading your response, i don’t feel so, well, dumb about having bought the bayonet i have. Indeed they are very similar judging by the photos you posted. Certain my photos I put up last night are .jpegs. While these are loaded to this server, i cannot seem to get them on this thread. Do you have any insight on that? Here are the links to the photos I uploaded to the server here. In re-examining this bayonet in the light of day today, i see what appears to be blood pitting on the blade. Mild blemishs on the blade, Looks exactly like my deer skinning small bowie knife that I have used on many a deer over the years. |
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