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    Posted: March 14 2019 at 6:52pm
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I really appreciate everyone's helpful input. Had a friend who knows these rifles inspect it and he gave me the thumbs up. I popped the bolt from another Lee-Enfield rifle I own in the receiver, tied the rifle to a stout table, procured a long string and fired it. I ran ten rounds through it with no problems. Nevertheless, this one might just be more of a wall hanger than a shooter for me. I own another No4 MKI which is my go-to fun gun, so I won't be missing out.
Once again thanks to everyone for letting me pick your brains on the subject.

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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

dittos that , the best defense is inspection and confirmation first , second line is a firm rest , long string , and tree to hide behind ..............i did come from the Arkansas hills , 


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dittos that , the best defence is inspection and confirmation first , second line is a firm rest , long string , and tree to hide behind ..............i did come from the arkansas hills , 
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Originally posted by Yeoman Yeoman wrote:

Hey Hoadie,
Thanks for the speedy reply to my post. There is not a"D.P." marking or stamp that I can find and I've been over the rifle pretty thoroughly while cleaning the cosmoline off. I will definitely have it looked at before I go any further. I'll take it up to my local gunsmith and have him inspect it.


If you have it looked at make sure that the gunsmith is experienced with Enfield rifles.
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I understood your comment HT. I just meant that in his particular case,no amount of bobbing his barrel will help. Reminds me of the time I was working on a 66' Plymouth Belvedere that the owner had just smoked the engine on.It was a basket case. The owner asked me what he should do to fix his issues.  I noticed that he had put a brand new radiator cap on his junked radiator. I suggested that he jack the radiator cap up and park a new car under it... Salvage the furniture and metal bits and park a workable barreled receiver in it...
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Well, the firearms biz in alot of cases still seems to be like the "wild west".
seems theres no laws saying you can't sell them..no matter how bad they are.

Brings back the memory of Rhino's no5 barrel. Showed up & its a "swayback" (read: RIP-OFF).

So its a good thing that eric put this site up, so we can all be saved from "questionable" acquisitions. Theres saftey in numbers...& the collective brain bank here is DEFINATLEY a bonus!!
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Goosic. You may have miss interpreted my comment. My meaning was at first glance the No4 I purchased appeared in nice shape. At the range told otherwise. In the case of this rifle, it could be saved. The gentleman in the above, I thought maybe the wood might be sellable to help recoup some of his loss. Never ever said he should Bob it and shoot it. Sorry if my post was misleading. 
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That is my thinking Zed. I found one in a similar condition awhile back. The store owner said that is was a straight shooter with no issues. It was cord wrapped as well.  When I looked into the chamber I noticed that there appeared to be a partial screw threaded into the chamber from the bottom going up into the top of the chamber. The firing pin tip was removed too. I asked about the screw and the store owner said it was residual cosmoline from when he unpacked it. I asked how he knew it was a straight shooter then being that there is residual cosmoline in the chamber that resembles a screw that is definitely threaded into the chamber and there is no way he could have fired it. I was asked to leave the store.
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Agreed that if it's got red paint on it; it's a bad sign. However what I don't get is why it was covered in cosmoline! If it was worn out, why would it not be scraped or broken for spares. Is it possible someone covered it in cosmoline to sell it on and hide the truth?

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His rifle did not come with a bolt and it was packed in cosmoline.  Along with the red stripes painted on the wood and the BRB usually denotes that it was deactivated at the armory. Bobbing a few inches off the end of the barrel would be the least of his concerns.  
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The BRB is Beyond Repair something... Like shilo stated, Beyond Economic Repair.  The B.E.R. Z being the worst of them. 
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Is it full wood? Seems like lots of demand for that! I feel your pain. I traded a rifle for a No Mk4 Sporter that appeared to be nice. At the range, I couldn't hit anything. After discussing it hear, I bobbed a few inches of the barrel, recrowned, etc. Turned out to be a nice shooter!
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Hey there 42rocker,
it looks like it will have to be a wall hanger. Can't return it as I bought it at a gunshow from a private collection. I didn't pay a whole lot as there was no bolt in the gun so I might be able to sell it for its parts.
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