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    Posted: July 23 2019 at 10:35pm
I have collected Lee Enfields for a number of years but have never seen one converted to a one piece stock. In my collection of parts and pieces for a time has been a Maltby No4 Mk1 with a damaged butt socket. I tried to repair it by reshaping it and adding some welding but that did not work.

 Then I had an idea, maybe good, maybe bad. Why not cut off the badly bent socket, practise my welding and then attack a piece of wood with a knife and a file? I did this. My welding was not up to standard so I drew out on paper what I thought should be added and talked to a more skilled welder. I now have a one piece stock 4/1 and pics are attached. I have taken it to a local range once and it appears to work no worse than the average LE 4/1.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2019 at 11:35pm
It has been done before. A British gunsmith called Whitaker converted some for target shooting using one piece stocks. There was one for sale last year for about 450 pounds I think; it was made from a No4Mk1T. probable the cheapest "T" you could find these days; but not restorable unfortunately.
Looks like you've made a nice job out of what was a damaged rifle. Well done.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bear43 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2019 at 5:13am
They always look so strange in a one piece configuration. Good job on making the rifle useable again though. Looks to be a nice sporting rifle now.
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Nice save!....you'll always get flak from the purists but any rifle saved is a good thing
Here's a couple I found on the net....





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I like that peep site. Gives me an idea...
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interesting , never really thought about that before - would have thought the mk 2 maybe ? 
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Canadian No.7 lightweight .22 caliber sporter 3r.....whatever that means

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That sight looks like one of the windage adjustable ones SARCO was selling.


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Shamu. We're they just bolt on?
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No.
The pivot axis had the be reamed out to take the larger diameter windage adjustment shaft & a hole had to be drilled for the detent spring & ball.
For a No4 (or 5) you removed the flat base & discarded it.
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.....found another one....



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Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

Shamu. We're they just bolt on?


As Plonker says - No. You had to drill and alter your rifle to make them fit.
They were originally designed for .22 rf target rifles.


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They are okay. They do not give you the diversity that the PH target fights give you though.
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Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

They are okay. They do not give you the diversity that the PH target fights give you though.



The PH4 or AJP 8/53 will achieve the same thing without irreparably changing your rifle.
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Or. You can forego it all and modify an original Mk1 sight,drill out the pin holes to accommodate the adjustment screw,and then go from there...
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Yeah, but you still have to ream & drill the receiver.
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