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lawndart
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Wow... the pictures in these posts are making me want one.
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lawndart
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For a rifle like this that gauges .3005" on the lands, would it be happy firing .308" projectiles, or would the issue be the groove diameter?
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Goosic
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The grooves would not be the issue. It has everything to do with the lands. To fire .308" projectiles,(168grn BTHP work the best)out of an Enfield chambered for the .311" projectiles, you need a bore measurement no more than .3035" when using a rifle with the 5 groove barrels. The intresting item here is that, a .308" 168grn BTHP loaded in a 303B cartridge case will work quite well if fired from either a 2 groove Savage or Long Branch No4Mk1 even if the bore measurements are .305"...
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Goosic
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I have been rubbing the wood with a square of denim with some nice results. Today I did something my uncle used to do to his rifle stocks. I applied a thin layer of Kiwi Conditioning Oil to the wood and after letting it sit for a couple of hours, buffed it out with the denim square. The color of the wood darkened and brought out some unique features in the grain structure. Like the V in the buttstock...
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britrifles
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Very nice!!!
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scottz63
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Wow! Lookin good.
Never heard of the denim trick. Might have to try that.
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Fullsize 4-speed
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You have done a spectacular job with the wood. I had not heard of the Parker & Bailey furniture cream. In the past I have used various antique furniture re-finishing products (Formby's, etc.) to clean down to the wood on old stocks. I then apply several coats of PTO. I have been happy with the results so far. I think that this is a little less severe than the oven cleaner approach. In the case of this resistance Enfield, I wanted something even gentler than the re-finishing products (Basically acetone). The Parker & Bailey product seems to be the solution.
I am usually reluctant to re-finish original military stocks. There usually needs to be something particularly unsightly to make me do it. The wood on yours looks great, however. If the P&B got the wood looking like it does in the photos, without any subsequent oil finish (prior to the Kiwi), that is ideal. It appears to have removed all of the hardened oil and grease off of the surface but left the original oil finish in the wood. It is probably as close to the way that it came out of Maltby as it possibly could be. I will probably try the Parker & Bailey's on mine after the holidays. Thanks for the info. |
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Shamu
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Very nicely done. I've used Jute or Burlap squares to do the same thing. Its a little harsher than dehnim but not as abrasive as things like steel wool or Scotchbrite.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Goosic
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I cleaned the wood using the Parker and Bailey and a soft cloth and then used a soft bristle tooth brush going with the grain. If I found a hard deposit in the grain, I used the appropriate size sewing needle to fish it out. I did that 5 times until my soft cloth showed no signs of dirt. I waited two days and then applied that Kiwi stuff. I thought I was going to have to rub some Stand Oil into the wood but it honestly doesn't need any. Just alot of TLC so far...
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Goosic
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Totally forgot to post the following pictures. The last items I cleaned were the barrel bands and I have to hand it to Viners Ltd. on their awesome brazing work. I am making an assumption here in thinking these were "Oil Blackened?" because the brazing material is very visible. Everything about this particular rifle screams, "Utility Grade" and I love it...
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Shamu
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I used the "old toothbrush" with some Murphys on the areas of the wrist & the end grain near the butt plate, its gotten much better but is still not quite "matching" the rest.
If this don't fix it I'll just accept its part of the character of the rifle. It was originally "dark black" everywhere but with time & care its getting much better, but I'm trying not to "over improve" it. I'll post some pics but the stand oil is still soaking in right ow so it loos awful!
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Goosic
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When I got her home and started really looking her over I noticed what look like a huge chunk of wood was missing from where the top of the buttstock meets at the wrist socket and then it dawned on me that, "Nope. Some Maltby Monkey just got busy with a chisel and hammer"...
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britrifles
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Nice to see screws not buggered up!
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Goosic
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I now know the pleasure of what one must feel when they remove that mummy wrapped Enfield from its cocoon...
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Fullsize 4-speed
Newbie Joined: December 06 2022 Location: WV, USA Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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Goosic,
Thanks for the detailed procedure for the Parker & Bailey's. I'm anxious to try it. The chisel work on your butt stock is interesting. It reminds me of the dispersal No.1 MKIIIs, where they didn't want to take the time to stamp the S and A of BSA on the receiver sockets. My rifle from the Shirley plant seems to be pretty carefully fit. They even apparently took the time to fill a knot on the topside of the wrist with some wood filler. It looks like there may have been differing levels of wartime urgency in the work depending on the management of the plant. |
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Goosic
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The screws:
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