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Bulletfreak 
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 Topic: Fultons - advice and IDPosted: August 28 2025 at 10:42pm |
 Hi from Aus Looking for advice and ID on these please. I have to decide what I’m going to do with a bunch of rifles I inherited from my grandfather who represented Australia during 1950’s-1970’s The government is restricting the number of rifles one person can license here so these may have to go if I want to keep my other hunting rifles  |
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 12:00pm |
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That's sad to hear. You appear to have, Top To Bottom. Rifle, No 4 Mk1, fitted with a base for some kind of Target sight. An S.M.L.E. (a.k.a Rifle No1 MkIII*, affectionately known to the troops as "Ole Smellie") Fitted with what looks like a Central (or one of its copies) sight. A Rifle No4 Mk2, also with some kind of "Central" target sight. Its possible the same sight was also used on the top rifle as they should have a quick change screw with a rapid release lever. I'm not sure the function of the "T" shaped piece of duck tape. How did you establish the "Fultons" association? That might well have a positive boost on pricing as "Fultons Of Bisley" were the past masters at improving military rifles into fine target rifles. Does it say anything like "Regulated By Fultons" on it somewhere? We can give you an idea of U.S pricing, but have no idea how that translates on the Aussie market. The fact they are documented to have been part of the Australian
Rifle Team, may add to collectors value, but I can't give you any idea
of how much again. Things like matching serial numbers on the bolt handle, receiver, barrel & forend on the No4, & nose-cap on the SMLE, & condition of the bore internally will have a bearing on price too. |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 1:19pm |
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The target back sights are worth several hundred dollars each.
The duct tape may have been used to cut glare from the sun.
Agree with Shamu’s assessment. |
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 1:38pm |
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Do they have royal cyphers, manufacturer, and dates on the butt socket or simply the manufacturer? There are different collector markets for ex-Service rifles and civilian target rifles. The marks will be hidden by the bolt handles. Also, any stamps on the receiver ring or barrel would be interesting.
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 1:59pm |
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Oh my! Those appear to be pretty nice. Love that rifle case in the top picture!
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 5:01pm |
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Wow some much awesome information - thanks so much
Both appear on the paper work as Fultons
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 5:05pm |
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Some markings
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 5:12pm |
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More stamps
  
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 6:48pm |
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Your No4 Mk1 is an American made Savage/Stevens No4 Mk1, a little rare as the switched to the simplified No4 Mk1* just after production started. Serial # should have a "C" (for Chicopee Falls Mass in it.) The "U.S. PROPERTY" stamp indicates it was made for the U.S. Lend/Lease program to England & other countries during WW2. I was mistaken about the sight mount. those are the pivots for a standard "Singer" type micrometer rear sight. Without that its a bit crippled, but they are reasonably cheap to get & simple to install.  You'd need the one on the left, graduated to 1300 yds.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 6:56pm |
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interesting rifles - is that one handguard taped in place ? the one in the first picture last post ....
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 7:09pm |
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In looking at the pictures it seems that the tape runs down most of the sight line. Bet it was to reduce glare to give a cleaner sight line.
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 7:13pm |
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You are correct
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 7:22pm |
  Numbers match
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 7:33pm |
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The black cloth tape was to reduce glare and runs down the hand
guard I can read No4MK1 ROF(F) 7/4  |
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Posted: August 29 2025 at 11:42pm |
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Some fabulous rifles you have there. It's a shame that you can't keep all your rifles, in particular, ones that have family history!
Personally, those would be the last to go, if they were mine! Have you shot these rifles? I suggest you take them to the range see how good they are. I would suggest keeping at least one. For the No4 without the rear sight, you can fit a Fulton's scope mount, fit a modern scope, and you have an excellent hunting rifle! Obviously it's personal choice, and you have the government to thank for being forced into that choice. It's a shame that they don't understand that it doesn't matter how many rifles you have, because you can only shoot one at a time! |
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Posted: August 30 2025 at 12:08am |
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I also inherited these on top of 4 I already have Zed our government is destroying our history and culture
Yes I have shot one of them a few times including on the range. Extremely accurate but so is my Sako 85 We are allowed 5 per person now or join a club and have 10  |
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