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I’m not convinced it’s a no.2 officers, but your reasoning doesn’t make sense. If you look at the catalogue in the original post, No. 2 officers is specifically not for a bayonet.
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"I’ve also read that a lot of small British gunmakers and trade shops between the wars built sporting rifles using surplus Enfield actions. Some of those were fairly well finished and don’t always match a specific cataloged model.

So I’m wondering if this might be something along those lines — a small-trade or gunsmith-built sporting rifle using an Enfield action rather than a simple surplus sporterization. I humbly admit I’m not an expert on these. I’ve just got a rifle that has really nice wood, well polished, very well fit, that doesn’t match anything I can find."

This would be my thoughts to, but with one major flaw.

Most of those were justifiably proud of their work & marked them prominently with their house name.

My L.G.S growing up was J & G Gibbs, now "James W Gibbs Gunsmiths", they were literally a 3 minute walk from my house. They're now in Bath. I never saw one of their customs ever without the name prominently engraved on them.

https://gibbsgunmakers.com/



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thanks eliot , i misread that , i confused no1 and 2 details 
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Originally posted by Eliot Eliot wrote:

I'd like to push back a bit on the cheap sporterization angle. I understand that many SMLE rifles were sporterized during the interwar and postwar periods, and a lot of those were inexpensive conversions. However, a few structural features of this rifle make me question whether it fits the typical “cut-down surplus sporter” pattern.

First, the rifle has a full Mannlicher stock with a fitted nose cap, not a shortened military fore-end. The wood appears to have been made as a full stock from the start rather than cut down from military furniture. This is not a cut down original front end.

Second, the magazine sits flush with the stock and uses a hinged floorplate rather than the standard detachable SMLE magazine. That requires different bottom metal and stock inletting, which seems like significantly more work than the typical cheap surplus chop job. As far as I understand, there should also be a rear trigger guard screw inside the guard, which this seems to lack.

Third, the buttstock geometry doesn’t match a standard SMLE stock. I actually tried fitting a No.1 Mk III buttplate and it is too small for the outline of this stock, which suggests the butt was not simply reshaped from military furniture but was made from a different blank. The butt end of the stock is simply too big for this to be an SMLE buttstock.

Finally, this is high quality walnut and appears to be hand checkering, not a garage cut down sporterization of an SMLE.

I’m not claiming it’s a factory BSA sporting rifle, but the construction details seem to suggest a purpose-built sporting stock and bottom metal fitted to an Enfield-pattern action, rather than a simple cut-down SMLE.






I never said it was a “cheap sporterization”, I said it was sporterized when surplus rifles were cheap.  

To give you some idea, Interarms alone imported something like 2 million of these just from England in the postwar period.  

Someone put a lot of work into this.  More time & resources than a commercial sporting rifle would’ve sold for at this time, despite the fact the rifle itself was less than half the cost.  This was done by someone showing off their skills.  Buffed, high gloss blue, jeweled butter knife bolt, Mauser floorplate, custom checkered stock*.  This was done by someone who knew their stuff.  By no means “cheap”.

* The pic shown of the area around the ejector screw is the ghost of the MkIII (or MkIII*) charger bridge, another customization requiring a certain skill level.  Which also tells us what this rifle really started life as.
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it does appear the charger bridge has been removed and cleaned up 
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Thank you for all of the replies. It seems that I just have someone’s sporting rifle that they custom made. Makes for a great rifle to keep cleaned up, shoot at the range, teach my kids with, and remember grandpa by. Unfortunately since the stock is not a standard design, I’ve still got a buttplate issue. Any recommendations on a buttplate or pad? I’d At least like to replace the chewed up “Duck Brand” one that was on it.


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