Pattern-1907 Bayonets, cut-down to 12"

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   This is something I have been wondering about.  I found a Pattern-1907 Bayonet that had been cut down to 12" at an antique store for $20 (US).  From what information I could dredge up, it seems these were cut-down in India to be used for "Jungle Fighting" in the Far East. 

 The few places I could find any information seems to point out these were used by Indian units of the British Army.  Does anyone know anything more about these bayonets?  Were they used by regular British Units in the Far East?  I have not seen any photos of them actually being used, just curious what others know about this.

I do believe that there were bayonets made in India with 12" blades originaly in addition to the cut-down version.  As soon as I can post photos I will try to fire off a photo of my bayonet.

Thank You

Mark

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TomcatPC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 02 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 335	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomcatPC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Pattern-1907 Bayonets, cut-down to 12" Posted: February 10 2007 at 7:41am
	This is something I have been wondering about. I found a Pattern-1907 Bayonet that had been cut down to 12" at an antique store for $20 (US). From what information I could dredge up, it seems these were cut-down in India to be used for "Jungle Fighting" in the Far East. The few places I could find any information seems to point out these were used by Indian units of the British Army. Does anyone know anything more about these bayonets? Were they used by regular British Units in the Far East? I have not seen any photos of them actually being used, just curious what others know about this. I do believe that there were bayonets made in India with 12" blades originaly in addition to the cut-down version. As soon as I can post photos I will try to fire off a photo of my bayonet. Thank You Mark
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Tymber Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: June 08 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tymber Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 11 2007 at 8:37pm
	India has about 4 different models of the short PO 7-- Mkl , Mkl* , Mkll , Mklll The Mk1 and the Mk1* are definatley cut down PO 7's with the blood groove still present. The Mkll will have the same PO 7 pommel but with a flat blade and the Mklll will have a flat blade and a squared pommel. Here's a pict ( not a very good pict ) of my Mkll

TomcatPC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 02 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 335	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomcatPC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 12 2007 at 7:48am
	Thank you for replying. From what I could tell, I have the Mk.I* version, it has the 2" false edge along the top point. The Mk.III variant, is that the squared pommel version? Mark
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A square 10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Online Points: 16997	Post Options Post Reply Quote A square 10 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 26 2007 at 3:53am
	not to over complicate things , but if you collected indian bayos you would find that the 'flat' fullerless blades came in two versions as well , with and without the false edge , its about 2" at the top side of the tip and generaly resulted in a star added to the mark one could put quite a collection together of strickly indian made or converted bayos

allan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: March 11 2006 Location: Dapto-Australia Status: Offline Points: 1924	Post Options Post Reply Quote allan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 26 2007 at 6:59am
	thanks for the info on these bayos guys, i see them at the gunshows quite on a regular basis and they fetch for a fairly low price too.
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TomcatPC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 02 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 335	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomcatPC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 27 2007 at 3:07am
	It seems to me also that the Indian made bayonets are not all tha expensive. I think International Military Antiques have the last War-time version (I think it is the No.1 Mk.III, "crude pommel type") for around $25 (US), they are Drill Purpose marked without scabbards, but I still might grab one sometime. Mark
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Tymber Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: June 08 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tymber Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 27 2007 at 6:52am
	The Mklll has the squared pommel . There should also be mention of P07's that where modified and shortened by the Turks to fit they're Mauser . The muzzle ring would be re-set higher tho and it would likely be a pretty crude job.