DCRA wears a Matchmaker

britrifles wrote:

Got out to the range today to try the new Matchmaker Foresight. Very pleased with it.

As might be expected, my initial sighter shots were high at 200 yds since the point of aim is now “center mass” rather than a 6:00 hold on the black aiming mark. I had a + .015 front sight blade previously, so the globe front sight is a bit taller, by about 1 size.

I expect as I get used to the different sight picture, scores will improve.

Here is the first group at 200 yds. I did not initially boresight the rifle, since the change in front sight height from the standard blade sight was fairly small.

First two sighters in the 7 ring at 12:30 right next to each other using my previous 200 yd zero rear sight setting.

I lowered the rear sight a bit too much for shot #3, which was just outside the 10 ring at 5:00 (I keep forgetting that the PH 5c sight adjustments are about 1.25 MOA per 4 clicks and not a true MOA).

Then adjusted up 1 MOA and Left 1 MOA. The next 6 shots held a good group, under 1.5 MOA, but a bit high and left of center.

Now to find the time to head back to the 1000 yd range at Spencer, TN…

Good shooting!!

14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer

I bet 1 down and 1 over would be right on.

14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer

Yes, this combination of sights is showing promise.

My PH5C has the cylindrical knobs that are 1/4 MOA clicks. Not a true .25 MOA click due to the sight radius on the No. 4, more like 0.31 MOA per click.

IIRC, 4 clicks moves the rear sight by 0.010 inches.

Rossfield wrote:

On the ENVOY the "Matchmaker" sights were fitted with the knurled portion to the rear, which I believe is the normal position.

This is correct on heavy barreled Enfield's like the Envoy and L39A1; on conventional No.4 conversions however by fitting the knurled piece to the rear it can foul the metal forend.

See britrifles picture in post#1.

Mick

Agree, just the thing for shooting on "bullseye" type targets. The standard blade type foresight works well for the "tin hat" style targets that were used at short and medium range.

I've got a smaller aperture to try, the one it came with was quite large, I think it encircled about three targets at 1000 yards. Hope to get back to the long ranges in a few weeks to shot the DCRA again and will try out the smaller ring.

Canuck wrote:

Britrifles, I have a TZ 4/47 but it is graduated for use with 303 MKVII service ammo.

The range scale on the right might be calibrated for .303 but the MoA scale will be the same for either caliber.

To distinguish between the .303 and 7.62mm variations of the 4/47, the .303 version goes up 1200 yards and the later 7.62mm version goes to a 1000 yards.

I've never owned a PH-4 but have always liked the look of them, it was a fairly short lived sight after AJ Parker produced the 4/47 and Parker-Hale had to respond with the P-H5c.

Canuck, does this help?

Mick

Strangely Brown wrote:

Canuck wrote:

Britrifles, I have a TZ 4/47 but it is graduated for use with 303 MKVII service ammo.

The range scale on the right might be calibrated for .303 but the MoA scale will be the same for either caliber.

To distinguish between the .303 and 7.62mm variations of the 4/47, the .303 version goes up 1200 yards and the later 7.62mm version goes to a 1000 yards.

I've never owned a PH-4 but have always liked the look of them, it was a fairly short lived sight after AJ Parker produced the 4/47 and Parker-Hale had to respond with the P-H5c.

Exactly. And, it’s not likely the range index marks will correspond to typical .303 ammunition available anyway, or handloads for that matter. I pay no attention at all to the range index marks but rather record the MOA scale values for each distance I shoot at obtained by test firing.