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   Hi all,
I purchased these two rifles from someone cleaning out a family member's closet.....and I have very little knowledge on Enfields.  I will try to get better pictures of anything that anyone would like to see, but this is just a teaser for now (I have no idea what things might be needed to identify).

Thanks in advance.

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dunl Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: July 25 2024 Location: Alberta, Canada Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote dunl Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: looking for ID help Posted: July 25 2024 at 8:02pm
	Hi all, I purchased these two rifles from someone cleaning out a family member's closet.....and I have very little knowledge on Enfields. I will try to get better pictures of anything that anyone would like to see, but this is just a teaser for now (I have no idea what things might be needed to identify). Thanks in advance.

Sapper740 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: July 15 2021 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 1737	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sapper740 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July 26 2024 at 1:59am
	Pattern 14 on the left, M.L.E. I think on the right. Both have been Bubba-ized.

A square 10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 16998	Post Options Post Reply Quote A square 10 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July 26 2024 at 1:15pm
	i agree - either pattern 14 if in 303 or model 1917 if in 3006 on left its been sported for hunting , the stock would have been full length original , if P14 it should have a letter [ R , E , or W]on top of chamber indicating who made it remington , eddystone , or winchester - they were the only three making them under contract to the brits , the stock leads me to believe it was an eddystone and the marking disc leads me to P14 , the fact that its missing leads me to guess it went thru weedon refurb between the wars , the MLE on the right has also been sported for hunting as it was once full wood as well and longer than the later SMLEs , cant tell much more than that from this photo , it should have markings on the right wrist to ID the mfgr

hoadie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: March 16 2006 Location: Niagara/Canada Status: Offline Points: 9680	Post Options Post Reply Quote hoadie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July 26 2024 at 3:57pm
	How about full length all sides pictures? Gee..that would solve alot
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A square 10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 16998	Post Options Post Reply Quote A square 10 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July 26 2024 at 10:11pm
	barrel lengthy will tell if they have been cut and if they can return to original state with appropriate parts , i cant tell from the photos if they are originals or cut , the P14 should have makers marks on the muzzle end behind the sight , the lower stock wuld have been marked as well near the muzzle , all three were independent [did not share p[arts] so it should all match if original , the MLE , appears to have cutoff , original buttstock and possibly the bolt cover if im seeing correctly , which is up for contention as my eyes no longer work as they did when i was younger

dunl Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: July 25 2024 Location: Alberta, Canada Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote dunl Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July 28 2024 at 11:03am
	Hi all, I truly appreciate the comments from everyone so far. It's been busy, but I have more gun porn....err....pics for you. The thing I love about sites like this over the past 30 years is the incredible wealth of knowledge you can find here. Long ago I used to be into breeding African Cichlid fish, and had a few species that no one else was able to breed. It's the little niches in life that can be so interesting sometimes, so I thank you all again for the help. Here's the link for the pics of the rifles....the blue checkered map separates the two rifles. http://link.shutterfly.com/XB8ZqGLCBLb

dunl Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: July 25 2024 Location: Alberta, Canada Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote dunl Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August 03 2024 at 10:38pm
	Anyone find anything interesting in those pictures?

Shamu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 20510	Post Options Post Reply Quote Shamu Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August 04 2024 at 4:10pm
	Yes, both have been sporterized. The SMLE has had the charger bridge removed, so its beyond restoration. That doesn't nessecarily mean its not a good shooting sporting rifle though. From the ShtLE markings I think its a B.S.A. made one Its identical to an SMLE just a different way of abbreviating Short Magazine Lee Enfield. Incidentally your rifle is cocked, this isn't good for the striker spring. To "Ease Springs" (relaxing the striker spring) you take the safe OFF, open the bolt, verify it is unloaded, then pull & hold the trigger with the bolt open. Now slowly close the bolt fully. Re-apply the safety.
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)