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    Posted: September 19 2025 at 11:39am
I have been looking everywhere for a Mk 1 +.030 front sight blade to square away my No. 4 Mk 2 Enfield.  I cannot find one anywhere.  Where did they all go?

Would anyone have one in good shape that they would consider selling to me?  

Thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by clancey1849 clancey1849 wrote:

I have been looking everywhere for a Mk 1 +.030 front sight blade to square away my No. 4 Mk 2 Enfield.

Where did they all go?

I hate to say this but I rather think a lot of them have been scrapped or thrown away; I can remember some 30 years ago at the arms fairs at Bisley seeing wooden .303 ammo boxes full of them with zero interest from the fairs customers.

Steven, is it a Mk1 or a Mk1* you are after?

I've taken this from DS Solutions website in the UK which may help.
A Brief Explanation of Later Lee Enfield Foresight Blades.

A Brief Explanation of SMLE No1 MkIII & III* and Rifles No4 and No5 Foresight Blades. With Additional Notes on P14 & M17 Foresights

No4 Series Rifles; No4 foresight blades were made in 3 Marks (‘Mk’), although just to confuse things there was Mk1 and Mk1*, followed by Mk2 & Mk3 - so in point of fact there are 4 variations. Mk1's were solid base (dovetail) and Mk1* were split base. Both of these had the back of the blade come right to the back of the block base. Mk2 were solid based and Mk3 split based. On these the blade was undercut at the back (sloped forward from the tip) to give better definition of the tip.
No5 (Jungle Carbine) Rifles; Just to throw things a little there was also a specific set of blades for the No5 Jungle Carbine. They look like No4 Mk1* (split base) blades, although they are shorter front to rear and have their own part number sequence starting 'BJ' rather than 'BB' or 'CR' and these are designated 'Blade, Foresight Mk1'. Depending on the size of the hole bored through the foresight protector ears on the No5 foresight block, some No5 Jungle Carbines will accept a No4 foresight blade – some will not.
All of these blades are made in 0.015” increments, sized from -0.030" to +0.075" although Mk2 and Mk3, No4 blades, also have a 0.090" blade which was added to the series sometime after WW2.
SMLE (Rifles No1 & 2); SMLE (Mk3 & 3*) foresight blades are all solid base (dovetail). In form they are similar to No4 Mk1 blades, although generally the platform that the blade sits on is wider and consequently the dovetail part looks flatter and smaller although it is not. There are 8 sizes of SMLE blades listed, running from -0.060" to +0.045". Some references also list 2 further sizes +0.060” and +0.075” although so far I have not found a reference to British Army Part Numbers for these.
The '0' sized blade is a zero on both SMLE & No4 & No5 foresight blades because the sizes are taken from an imaginary line 1" above the centre of the bore, therefore on '0' blades the tip of the foresight is 1" above the centre of the bore, the +0.015" is 15 thou above the line, the - 0.030" is 30 thou below the line etc.
So, SMLE blades should be physically interchangeable with No4 blades, other than the size ranges are different.
P'14 Rifles; Just to confuse things slightly, P14 foresight blades are the same form as (and interchangeable with) SMLE blades - BUT - (big but) they are marked with different sizes because the dovetail on a P14 foresight is a different height above the centre of the bore, 0.060" lower to be exact. P14 foresight blades run from -0.015” to +0.135" and are marked as such. In other words a P14 blade marked '0' is the same size as an SMLE blade marked -0.060". P14 sight blades are usually marked ‘P14’ in addition to the size.
US M17 Rifles; If you are not quite confused enough already; The US .30-06 M17 Rifle has 11 sizes of foresight blade which will interchange with P14 (and therefore SMLE) blades. These are also in 0.015” increments but based on an imaginary line placed 0.950” above the bore centre line. These range, and are marked, between -0.015” and +0.135”. Because of the differing ‘zero’ height and the different trajectory of the .30-06 round, making an adjustment to either a P14 or an SMLE using these blades is largely a matter of ‘suck it and see’!
I hope this helps? At this point I would take yourself off to a darkened room for a while and have a lay down. That is what I have to do every time this question comes up!

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It is my understanding that for this 1955 Fazakerly No 4 Mk 2 it would have been fitted with a MK 1 foresight blade.
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If it has the reverse slot screw in the front of the sight block it needs the solid blade, if not the slotted.
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Originally posted by clancey1849 clancey1849 wrote:

It is my understanding that for this 1955 Fazakerly No 4 Mk 2 it would have been fitted with a MK 1 foresight blade.

The practical answer is that both solid and split base will fit; no promises but would you like me to try and find you one in Fultons (Bisley) on Tuesday when I'm there? 
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I appreciate your offer, but a forum member is sending me one as we speak.

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Originally posted by clancey1849 clancey1849 wrote:

I appreciate your offer, but a forum member is sending me one as we speak.


Glad you're sorted; found this whilst I was looking for additional info: 

Types of Foresight Block 
The Mk1 foresight block is what is termed a split type. There is a diagonal split vertically through the block and a screw at the front of the block which allows the split to open or forces it to close, to grip or release the foresight blade dovetail. Originally these were designed to be used with 'solid' foresight blades, however this was later amended and either split or solid foresight blades can be used with these. The 7.62mm L42A1 Sniper rifles almost exclusively used the split type of blade in a Mk1 foresight block. The Mk2 block is what is termed a solid block. The foresight blade base is split through the dovetail from side to side (as per the Mk3 blades on the website) and these are reliant on the spring tension created in the foresight blade dovetail when these are compressed as they are driven into the dovetail in the block, to retain them in position. These blocks should only be fitted with Mk1* or Mk3 (Split Base) Foresight Blades. Because a Rifle is a Mk1 does not mean that it will – or should have – a Mk1 Foresight Block fitted, any more than a Mk2 should or will have a Mk2 Foresight Block fitted. Although chronologically the Mk1 block came f irst, the Mk2 block was introduced into service long before the Mk2 Rifle was. Rifles would have been fitted with whichever was available when produced, and likewise when repaired or overhauled the only criteria in the majority of cases would have been ‘was it serviceable’
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