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    remember seeing that news on TV every evening at dinner time , it was ON as that was what we relied on for the info of the day , thats when the MSM got the idea they were the gods of info in our lifetimes , we gave them that because it was our only connection , 
 
when i left high school in dec 68 and started college in jan 69 we had just watched TET unfold on TV , most of the next few years of my life were influencesd by what we had and were seeing on YV , i cant imagine that woman seeing her husband killed on the nightly news , but i do remember the nightly news being full of the imbeded reports - the body counts - the actual on location reports that were more real than anything the US population had ever seen before , wewere not used to that , we were used to doctored up news reels at the movie theaters , it was sobering , 
 
i also remember the antiwar protesters and that coverage at the democrat convention , i remember them on campus , i remember the building on the campus i was studying on getting bombed , no one hurt thankfully , i remember the protestors trying to block access to our classes , and i remember kent state and classes being canceled , i remember dropping my student deferment to be eligible for the lottery and being good with whatever happened , i got a real high number FWTW , im still 1H and always will be per those regs of the times - subject to call up at any moment , true they dont want me anymore , but im still on the list , 
 
i also remember my VN student vet friends telling me about their experiences returning home , there is a lot of those times that ive chosen to not dwell on but none of it has ever left my mind , life allowed me to enjoy the company of a lot of others over the years that either experienced it as i did or served there and suffered the insults of those times , ive been blessed to know all good people in either case , we all agree we are very much ashamed of what the MSM did with the trust we gave back then , they seemed to think they were given that trust as a right to mislead and lie , 
 
NOT TRUE , but i do believe ive lived long enough now to see that get negated - we shall see , i know i dont watch TV or the nightly news as i did back then , nor do i believe what they say or alter my life based on that anymore , 

 our political types have always swayed to the whims of those that protest loudest in the streets , almost always unemployed but paid by those that wanted to influence policy , aided by the MSM coverage and fawning , it has been so since VN , that is why you see it on our campuses today , we fight the battles and pay the bills but we have to live with the restrictions when fighting and pay the taxes , its BS .............why trump has struck a cord - we are tired of it ,

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A square 10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 16999	Post Options Post Reply Quote A square 10 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: remembering VN Posted: February 06 2025 at 10:36pm
	remember seeing that news on TV every evening at dinner time , it was ON as that was what we relied on for the info of the day , thats when the MSM got the idea they were the gods of info in our lifetimes , we gave them that because it was our only connection , when i left high school in dec 68 and started college in jan 69 we had just watched TET unfold on TV , most of the next few years of my life were influencesd by what we had and were seeing on YV , i cant imagine that woman seeing her husband killed on the nightly news , but i do remember the nightly news being full of the imbeded reports - the body counts - the actual on location reports that were more real than anything the US population had ever seen before , wewere not used to that , we were used to doctored up news reels at the movie theaters , it was sobering , i also remember the antiwar protesters and that coverage at the democrat convention , i remember them on campus , i remember the building on the campus i was studying on getting bombed , no one hurt thankfully , i remember the protestors trying to block access to our classes , and i remember kent state and classes being canceled , i remember dropping my student deferment to be eligible for the lottery and being good with whatever happened , i got a real high number FWTW , im still 1H and always will be per those regs of the times - subject to call up at any moment , true they dont want me anymore , but im still on the list , i also remember my VN student vet friends telling me about their experiences returning home , there is a lot of those times that ive chosen to not dwell on but none of it has ever left my mind , life allowed me to enjoy the company of a lot of others over the years that either experienced it as i did or served there and suffered the insults of those times , ive been blessed to know all good people in either case , we all agree we are very much ashamed of what the MSM did with the trust we gave back then , they seemed to think they were given that trust as a right to mislead and lie , NOT TRUE , but i do believe ive lived long enough now to see that get negated - we shall see , i know i dont watch TV or the nightly news as i did back then , nor do i believe what they say or alter my life based on that anymore , our political types have always swayed to the whims of those that protest loudest in the streets , almost always unemployed but paid by those that wanted to influence policy , aided by the MSM coverage and fawning , it has been so since VN , that is why you see it on our campuses today , we fight the battles and pay the bills but we have to live with the restrictions when fighting and pay the taxes , its BS .............why trump has struck a cord - we are tired of it ,

Sapper740 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: July 15 2021 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 1737	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sapper740 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 07 2025 at 3:09am
	I graduated high school in June of 1972 so I'm of an age that grew up watching the Vietnam War unfold just as you even though I lived in Canada at the time. I remember LBJ harrumphing over the Gulf of Tonkin incident which he used to broaden America's involvement in the war in 1964. Tet was all over the news in 1968. I encountered a few American draft dodgers in Vancouver and a few that moved to Canada after serving in the Vietnam war and the differences in experience over there was profound. One was a former chopper pilot who suffered terribly from PTSD. He never talked about his experiences but years later after reading the book "Chickenhawk" by Bob Mason I think I understood a little of what he went through. Another Veteran I met in Canada was a Construction Engineer who told me he spent his tour in Vietnam hooking up air conditioners for officers in Saigon and had the time of his life over there. Either way, I have nothing but respect for all who served in Vietnam. I became a Life Time member of the Associates of Vietnam Veterans of America and help out all the veterans here. I've heard some amazing stories.