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I have a copy of the book in hand and it is a great read.

I am really enjoying reading it.

Everyone should read it.
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I'm now about 1/2 way thru this book, and agree, this is a great read!  Anyone interested in WWII sniping should get this book.    

In last nights "episode", Furness was observing the enemy at about 600 yards away with his 20x scout regimental telescope and spotted what appeared to be a high ranking officer.  With a single shot from the T, the senior officer fell.  The repercussions of that action nearly got him killed; they threw everything they had at Furness: she!!ing, mortar fire, machine guns, the works.  He was very lucky to have escaped alive.  He was deaf for over a week from the exploding she!!s all around him.  

It is hard to imagine the stress of moving forward of your own lines to observe, and try not to get caught for it would usually mean immediate execution for being recognized as a sniper.  

I got to thinking about just how difficult it is to hit a man sized target on the first (and only) shot at 600 yards with a No. 4T.  Even with the 3x scope, that's a pretty small target to hit (a 14" wide chest is just over 2 minutes at 600 yds).   

Furness was clearly a master at range estimation, there were no range finders in that day!  I'm hoping he explains somewhere in the book how range estimation was done, there is not much to go on using the graticule post to estimate range, the width is 8 minutes.  

 
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It is a great book.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Strangely Brown Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2025 at 8:21am
Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

I got to thinking about just how difficult it is to hit a man sized target on the first (and only) shot at 600 yards with a No. 4T.  Even with the 3x scope, that's a pretty small target to hit (a 14" wide chest is just over 2 minutes at 600 yds).
  

We had this exact conversation last Friday at our 200 yard McQueens shoot, the lad with the T and the other with the L42 bot conceded it was difficult enough at 200 yards! 

Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

Furness was clearly a master at range estimation, there were no range finders in that day!  I'm hoping he explains somewhere in the book how range estimation was done, there is not much to go on using the graticule post to estimate range, the width is 8 minutes. 

Geoff the answer to this is football pitches; at least that's what we trained to do in the mid 60's.
A British football pitch is typically anywhere between a 100 and 130 yards long and we had to visualize the length of one and apply it to whatever we needed to range find...not easy! 

It's also worth noting that it wasn't until the introduction of the Schmidt & Bender 3~12x scope on he L96 with Mil dots that first gave the UK sniper the ability to range find without guessing. 


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Mick, the range finding method by counting the number football field (pitches) is something that I've read as well, though I am not able to do that very accurately.  One would think after all these years shooting at 100, 200, 300 and 600 yds I could easily recognize those distances, but no!

The method that was taught to me at an Appleseed unknown distance event I attended 15+ years ago was to use the foresight blade width (8 MOA on an M1 Rifle) against something of a known width (such as the width of a human, lets say 14 inches).  So, if the target appeared as 1/4 the width of the 8 MOA foresight ( i.e. 2 MOA), the range is estimated by 14/2 x 100 = 700 yds.  If it appeared as 1/2 the width of the foresight (4 MOA), the range would be 14/4 x 100 = 350 yds; and so on.

A similar thing could be done using the width of the post graticule on the No. 32 scope; and I wondered if this is what snipers did as well as count the number of football pitches. 

At practical sniping ranges with the T, you would not want an error on elevation of more than +/- 2 MOA (+/- 12 inches at 600 yds),  so you must be able to estimate range within +/- 50 yds.  And that does not account for any other errors, so you need to do better than that! No easy task.

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Hesketh-pritchard's book "Sniping In France" noted the same if not less barrel life with their SMLE sniping kit in the great war. Cordite was a bore destroyer then too. 
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