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    Posted: October 18 2014 at 3:43pm
I am having difficulty adjusting the front sight on my Lithgow Mark III*. The POI is about 1.5" to 2" too far to the left. I know to move the front sight to the left if I want the POI to move to the right. Isn't that correct? However I am having difficulty making that happen.

First, I used a brass punch & a light "gunsmith" hammer to move the front sight. I positioned the punch at the base of the sight. I hit it lightly at first, but when the POI did not improve, I hit it harder. Still no movement of the POI. I then used a heavier "pointed" hammer. I still did not get results even after hitting it harder and harder. Being concerned that I would mar the metal I covered the front sight with a T-shirt rag & hit it even harder. Still, no results.

Do you have suggestions? I am hitting the horizontal protrusion on the side of the sight, sometimes lower than that, not the top of the blade. Any help will be appreciated.

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First of all; hitting it is not the best method, as you have no real control over how far it will move. Although it sounds as if your's may be seized in place, so might be worth getting some penetrating oil on it.
Firstly you need to know how far it has to move. Thats a fairly simple calculation. 
Multiply the distance between the front and rear sights by the distance between POA and POI; then divide the total by the distance between the muzzle and the target. 
Keep all figures in the same scale such as inch's

So if you are shooting at 100yards you have :(19,5" x 2") 39" / 3600" =0,01083" 
So you need to move the blade 10 thousands of an inch to the left.

The best method is using a tool that uses screw thread to wind the front blade and use a vernier caliper to measure the starting position, make a note of it. 
My No1MkIII* has the full nose cap So I need to remove the cap to adjust the front blade. If it has the holes in it you won't need to remove it and also it gives you a better place to measure from.


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Another thing to note is that sometimes the front sight blade is peened into the front sight base to prevent any movement. This will have to be dealt with as well. I have had front sight blades so deeply peened that they had to be replaced.
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Thanks for this input. I've seen the sighting devices referred to in other posts. Where can I order them from?

Assuming the the sight has not been peened, would a good penetrating oil be Kroil? If not, what other products are good penetrating oil?

I am pretty sure the front sight has not been peened because I have owned this sportarized 303 since 1958 or '59, and I never asked anyone to do that, & certainly I never did it myself. I selected it out of a big pile of other 303s. My impression is that the former owners was a military service of another country. I am the one who had it sportarized.

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Many parts were peened in place during military service. British armourers manuals actually show what parts were to be locked into place. If you basically have a round divot somewhere on the base of the sight blade itself then it was peened. I'll see if I can get a picture of it for better illustration. As for buying the sight adjusting tool, here's one from Numrich: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/255950.htm  Also check on e-bay, there used to be a guy that was making them and selling them there. For penetrating oil, Kroil is good stuff. Definitely give that front sight a bit of oil and let it sit a bit. It be all it takes to get some movement going.
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This is great information. Thanks for taking the time.
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Here is a picture of a peened front sight. I was mistaken too, it is the sight base that is peened with a punch. This displaces metal so it tightens the fit of the sight blade. If yours is peened than it may take a lot of force to dislodge it.
 
 
 
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And if you are using a drift, make sure you support the sight block on something solid while you are hitting it.
 
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