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    Posted: August 26 2020 at 12:10pm
So with a bit of help from a generous member here; a project idea I've been thinking of will now become reality!

To go with the SK sight mount; I managed to find a good second hand 1.5 -6- 42 Schmidt Bender scope at my local Armoury. So I bought the fittings to go with it and will initially fit the scope to one of my No8 .22's.
The idea being a .22 Baby Enforcer Enfield.

However I found some interesting info in Skennertons 3Lee Enfield" page 264 stating the some 6-42 Schmidt Bender scopes were fitted to L42's for trials and also special forces. This info is als mentioned in Steve Houghton's "The British Sniper". Apparently little is known of the SB scoped L42's; but the SBS did have some.
So I may have to fit it to the L39!

Anyway; the main reason for my post! Advice from anyone with experience of setting up scopes.
I can fit it all to the rifle OK; then next step I assume is sight through the barrel with rifle fixed and bring the scope into phase with that. Then range test at 50 metres to zero for the .22
Is there any obvious beginners errors to avoid?

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Originally posted by Zed Zed wrote:

The idea being a .22 Baby Enforcer Enfield.



The Enforcer, as standard, was supplied without a scope, rear sight or Bipod and many Police forces bought the 'basic package' when funds were low, and when the 'next years' budget came thru' the Force Armourer would make a local purchase order and buy his 'personal favourite' brand of scope and accessories.

A wide variety of scopes have been found on Enforcers.

Example - Enforcer No112 was bought by West Midlands Police and had an H&K scope fitted on a 1-piece mount.

Example - Enforcer No290 was bought by Cambridgeshire Police and fitted with a Nikko Sterling 6 x 32 and an AJP 4/47 rear sight

Obviously the Scope offered by Enfield was the Pecar 4-10 x 45 and most were supplied with that one.

Not a lot of people know that Enfield did not have enough No4 actions to produce the number of Enforcers that the Police ordered and they had to go out onto the 'secondhand market' and buy up No4's for conversion - a number were actually Savage and Long Branch rifles, so you may just be lucky enough to find an "American Enforcer" or a "Canadian Enforcer"


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Zed, yes, set the rifle up on a rest, remove the bolt, sight down the barrel to center the target in the image thru the barrel.  Make sure the rifle is not canted.  Without moving the rifle, bring the reticle to the aiming mark of your choice (with a scope, that’s usually at the center of the bull).  Double check the boresight picture to ensure you have not moved the rifle.  You will be surprisingly close when you take your first shot.  Works fine out to 200 yards (.303, not .22)


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Personally I bore sight at 25 yds.
step 1: Center the reticule optically, you have no way of knowing how far off center a used scope is! (you don't need to be at the range & the scope doesn't even need to be mounted.)
Click all the way Left, then, counting the clicks, go all the way right. Divide by 2 & go back that many clicks.
Repeat with elevation.
Your cross hairs are now optically centered.

Step 2: Set up at 25 yds with the loosely mounted scope.
Mount & clamp (somehow) the rifle & mounted scope. Cargo straps over sandbags are my favorite.

As you start the final tightening, alternating opposite screws on front & rear mounts left-right, left right (just like torquing down an ally cylinder head) watch the cross-hairs. Half a turn all round & look, step & repeat. If they drift off shim the un tightened rings to bring them back on center.
Now make the final adjustment with the turrets to bore sight the two together just as BRITRIFLES describes.
Step 3: Unclamp the rifle.

Step 4: Rest the rifle on a bench on sandbags. You want the bags where you'd grasp the stock.
Fire 2 warming & fouling shots, off target.
Fire a 3 round group. adjust 1/2 of what you think is the full correction needed.
Fire 3 rounds & adjust again.
Keep repeating till the cross hairs are in the center of the group fired.
Basically its a sneak upon it technique so you don't over correct then get into backlash & other nasty stuff.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honkytonk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2020 at 6:40pm
I also bore site at 25 yards. My basement mancave has a window that I can see my backyard fence. I put an X on the fence with masking tape. I secure the rifle in my gun vise, remove the bolt and use wood shims under my homemade vise until the X is in the centre of the bore. I then look down the scope and adjust the cross hairs to zero in on the X. Double check, then off to the range. Works pretty good and saves a lot of ammo. I'll then shoot at 25 yards and once I get a decent group about 1-2" low of bull, move over to the 100 yard range. Best of luck!
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Thanks Gent's. I'll check the adjustments on the scope before fitting.
I can tape an X on the Renault 4 Van at the end of the garden and set up the rifle on a table in the lounge. I do have a small spirit level that may be useful for checking the rifle is not canted off verticle.
I'll get it fitted up Saturday and hopefully a range test in the afternoon. 
The only uncertainty; until I try it all on the rifle is the ring height/scope clearance at the front end. The Armoury recommended low Leupold rings. a bit expensive but nicely made. Their guy has Enfields so should be OK.
I'll take photos and post after the weekend.

One of the reasons for doing this to the No8 is that many of our club are now into the .22 Hunter matches. This is 25 small targets, one shot on each. These members seem to change their gear each week! Turning up with wind vanes and bigger scopes and don't even hold the rifle to fire; it's all in a bench rest rig and just touch the trigger. That type of gear doesn't really interest me; but there is a "leisure rifle" class with slightly bigger targets. I think it might be fun to see if I can surprise a few folk in competition with a 70 year old military trainer and a sandbag!
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Zed, you might find it better to use a black bull printed on white paper, that way you can center the barrel around the bull.  6 to 8 minute bull gives a good clear view and a very accurate bore sight position (like looking thru an aperture sight).  Just size the black bull for the distance you are bore sighting at, so if the target is at 25 yards, a 1.5 to 2 inch black bull.  Adjust bull size accordingly. 
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^^^
this! its like using one of those ring front sights for bullseye.
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thanks. I have various size targets. I'll stick a suitable one on the side of the van (the van is white) so it will be clearly visible.
Looking forward to the weekend so I can crack on with this project.
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