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Posted: June 03 2013 at 10:03pm |
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to clarify my post , not much enfeild left but yes if its sound i also would look to setting it up for use as is , that will need to be determined by someone else , as to why ....who knows why folks are never satisfied with what they have , in my mind the designer had good reson to do as he did and i like the end result of his original , this appears to be someone who thinks he knows better than the original designer [a democrat ?]
a thought here - if you could locate 22cal bits it might be converted to that and function well , i did that with a US rifle M-1903A3 that someone just had to mess with
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Posted: June 03 2013 at 11:55pm |
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If you are mechanically inclined, you can also get a replacement rear stock band and butt stock online and convert it to a sporter keeping the 303 barrel.
Rear stock band installation tips: http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=29605 |
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 12:25am |
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the one thing that has crossed my mind here is hat the serial number often is on the wristband , would be wise to confirm its on the rifle to keep you legal [here in the states]
another thing is that handguards might bring in a few bucks from a colector in need of them to offset cost of 'fixing this up'
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 1:33am |
Only the top rear hand guard is of any use to someone like myself... a purist. It would be worth in the region of the $20 mark. The other two to me are already junk. However, for someone else wanting to destroy a perfectly good rifle, they might be able to find a good use for them. |
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 7:19am |
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So the 3 #s are just the last 3 in the serial # ?? Asqusre10 what do you mean by 22cal bits ?? BlackAck i'll check that out when I get a few spare minutes .. Thanks again gentlemen you've been great !!
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 10:48am |
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Would this fit into a enfield 1917 would sporter stock ?? There's one up for auction on gunbroker right now for $45 ??
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 9:40pm |
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I very much doubt it.
The M1917 is a mauser copy not actually related to the Lee Enfield at all.
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 9:54pm |
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Would a P14 stock work instead?
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 10:23pm |
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i doubt it the M17 & P14 stocks are near identical save for a slight differance in inletting , i suspect a stock would have to be made special using the inletting of the cut down stock as pattern ,
by 22cal bits im refering to the altered bolt parts and a sleeve for the barrel , like used to convert the no1 rifles to no2 trainers , i am grasping at straws here to try to save something that may well be beyond the effort
i agree sarge only the one would be used in a restoration , i thought of reclaiming the wood and such for someone trying to make repairs as a possibility for the others - considering the contours of the pieces and such , also that they are old wood i once could have put to use in a project rather than the newer stuff i used
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 11:02pm |
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Sagittarius...
Although the chaps here have all manner of suggestions and thoughts about what can, could, and can't be done with your skeletal, and much chopped SMLE. At the end of the day, to begin with, looking realistically, you are going to need to search out a qualified gunsmith. Whilst all of our suggestions are well meaning, I personally would not like to think that something I mentioned, could lead to an accident. Your item has been very well vandalised, and it will not be simply a case of just slipping the action into an available stock, securing it up, then out to the range with it. For one point, I can see a lot of $$$$'s involved. Unfortunately, the gunsmith may be your only option here. Then, once the financial side of bringing the piece back to shooting prowess has been discussed... you'll need to make a realistic decision = Is it worth it? I've been mulling over all possibly options, and to be honest, much as I hate saying this... I would look for a working sporterised. There are plenty of them for sale. One can normally pick them up for around $300, sometimes cheaper. With what your going to have to do on this project..... 1) Fabricate a new means of securing the action, 2) Install working safety system, 3) Obtain 'Bespoke' STOCK... and that's only the beginning. We don't even know if the item is safe to fire as yet! |
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 5:27am |
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obviously the potential safety issues are a concern if it's been cut about too much. But also it is likely that the accuracy has been seriously affected. The fact that the wrist has been cut means there would be more flex in that area. According to Roger Wadham's book on accurizing Enfields; the fore end wood should fit snuggly up to the wrist to avoid flexing in this area. A one piece synthetic stock may be the way to over come that issue, but only if the rest passes a safety check.
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 5:52am |
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There was a "fad" of doing this back in the 70's IIRC. Supposedly the 2-piece stock was lacking in accuracy potential so several target rifles were offered with this 1-piece conversion.
It went out of popularity quickly & I cant even imagine of a commercial or custom maker for 1-piece Lee Enfield stocks. I think this is a case of making the best of what you have due to cost & scarcity issues with any kind of replacment stock.
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 7:32am |
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Yes! Sarge is correct, I need to make sure this thing is safe to shoot before I spend any $$ or precede any further... Thank you again gentlemen I will keep you updated on my progress...
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 8:52am |
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I think that this is a case that is beyond hope. I very nice No4 Mk1 or new commercial sporter could be had for much less than it would cost to make it a shooter. You could sell the salvagable parts to Numrich or on Ebay.
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