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Hesus
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Posted: May 30 2020 at 6:14am |
Hi there,
So i bought an Lee Enfield No4 MK2 today but i am a bit confused about a few numbers on the rifle. What does the 2/ in front of the screw mean? Why is there a second screw where the date of manufacturing would be. It has no purpose, it doesn't go true. Shouldn't serial numbers only contain 4 numbers and not 6? Thank you in advance for the information. H.
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Rosario
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I too have confused No. 4. The screw looks like it was drilled over the second number which was the year. Mine is 12/53
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Mayhem
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Also note the action was initially marked as a No 4 Mk 2 and someone had changed the two to a one.
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.303 - Helping Englishmen express their feelings since 1889
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Shamu
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I believe that's a 7.62mm NATO conversion! Check your chamber! The shorter 7.62 won't eject with the original .303 Brit screw, its too far back for theshorter case so a second one was added. Its also slightly longer than the .303 one to allow for the rimless 7.62mm case. You can see where the original made on date " Mo/Yr, 12/##" (has been drilled to insert it. (the "12/" marking on the lower line.) I think the 1/2 confusion is a mis-stamped left bracket "(" from the "(F)" Fazakerly identifier? Its easy to tell just remove the floor metal (2 screws) & look up inside. It it's a Mk2 you'll see the "hanging bracket" for the trigger, if its a Mk1 the trigger will come off with it as its hinged in the bottom metal!
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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A square 10
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that 2 means it was a converted mkI to mk2 configuration , , the trigger should be mounted to the action rather than the trigger guard , an upgrade that is desirable , now - there is some question as to why a contract rifle [the PF serial numbers were almost all contact rifles ] was not made as a mk2 , but i had one made early on that was a mkI converted to mk2 so not o far out of norm as my question might imply , mine was made in 47 , im going to guess this one was an early rifle in that sequence that might have been upgraded before it left the factory as there is no FTR date
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Shamu
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Yes 5 digits is normal
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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A square 10
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my no4 mkI was dated 11/48 and had the PF 5 digit serial number , my no4 mk2 was dated 10/53and had a PF 6 digit serial number , so yes it may well have had that 6 digit from the beginning
oh BTW my 53 mk2 was PF372xxx so yours was made before it but im certain yours was made as a mk2 , they started that in 49 at FAZ , the conversions to 762 were the L8 rifles
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britrifles
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As another data point, my 6/50 Mk 2 is PF 212xxx (six digits).
It was converted to a DCRA 7.62 at Long Branch, #590 in 1963-64. |
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Shamu
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OK, we seem to be concurring! What caliber was it sold to you as?
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