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allan
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Posted: June 16 2007 at 6:08pm |
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well this months World War 11 magazine has a page on the Aussie Owen Gun, Knowing it was invented by a local guy(from the gong, -Albion Park) I thought you guys might like to read some info on it..heres a link
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If I remember correctly, dave was rather fond of his owen gun when he was over at "the garden party", I would like to hear what he has to say about them.
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allan
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where is dave?? those slave drivers will have him in a retirement village soon. |
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hoadie
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I think he & Tony eloped!
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Lost Kangaroo
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I have shot them, good fun....I can't remember clearly, but I think the F-1 was either the next variation or loosely based on the Owen, shot them too. They definitely seemed lightweight and potentially underpowered....until you factor in the rate of fire......put that much hot lead downrange fast and you will see why you would think of it as your best friend!! Especially effective in close, jungle quarters...
If Dave used the Owen, I hope it was in .45. They came in 9mm and even .22!! I am pretty sure the one I "tried out" was a .45, seem to remember short stubby rounds that packed a pretty good punch I also remember my first time shooting the F1, I managed to saw off the head of a wooden silhouette target!! Good times.. |
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The Owen Gun was the greatest peice of life insurance ever built ! It was supposed to have been retired in the early 60s,but due to a shortage of F1s (thank god ) Many of us carried the Owen into the Garden party ! It was also able to be fitted with a 50 shot Mag which was almost like a circle stiking out the top (we were never issued with these thank god ) & it could also be fitted with a silencer! Yes they were indestructable & never let you down ! The only problem with them was if cocked they had a nasty habit of going off! You jumped out of a Chopper & they would discharge ,same with a truck & for several users over the years sitting down & thumping it stock first into the ground between your legs ! The F1 by the same account ? well the best thing they did with those heaps of sh*t was to fit em with a Bayonet lug so you could throw em like a spear ! Both were 9mm !
I would also like to mention at this Point that OWEN who did so much for his country! Died Bankrupt, due to the gratitude of the Government who swindled him blind ! This is the Same gov that fought tooth & Nail to stop him developing the Gun . As they had already brought the rights fora inferiour Weapon from the British ,the AUSTEN (australian Sten ) Dave ........God Bless Evelyn Owen & the Lysart Brothers |
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Tony
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The old sten was a bugger for ADs. 1 guy dropped out the lorry clipped the but on the tailgate and yours truly was ducking 9mm. The old guardian angel was working overime that day!
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The late Robert Camp (Sr) -RSM Red Devils - recounted times like that re: the Sten(aka:Room Broom).He had a guy jump out the back of a lorrie with the Sten round his neck.When he hit the ground the damn thing went off & "ventilated" the lad's head standin next to him!
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Hatchetman
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I guess it would be best to have a round down the spout then if you go jumping out of things.
What was the owen made out of? stamped steel? I wonder if the fitters at work could knock one up for me? |
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Yeah Mate! They were as cheap as Cockie sh*t to manufacure 6pounds compared with 60 pounds for a Thompson! But it took from 1939 to 1942 & prototypes starting at .22,.32,.38 S&,.45 & finarly 9mm ! You never chambered a round until you were safely on the ground! I will never forget my Introduction to the OWEN ! We were told it was a Ammo Hungry Chatter Box that was garenteed to run dry just as the situation got truely interesting ! By Jeez though you felt 10 ft tall & bullet proof carrying one though ! Dave |
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1 thing you never did was jump with a loaded weapon hatchet ( ie round up the spout) . Lots of folks rely on safety catches thinking they are infallible until you get caught out and somebody cops a round. The old sten was manufactured as an answer to the German MP40 and fired a 9mm parabellum round. So the resistance had an ample supply of ammo if they raided german ammo dumps. If the germans wanted their bullets back the resistance let em have em
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Hatchetman
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Back in my air force cadet days I was on a GST camp and along with about 90 other cadets were staying out at Williamtown air force base, just outside Newcastle.
Any way the "higher ups" decided we should all hop onto buses and go out to singleton army barracks to see the Museum of Infantry. It was a day that the museum is not normally open so the armourers there got out some of the display pieces. They had everything from the Steyr and Minimi to the Lee-enfield, Martini and owen. I got to have a fiddle around with a BREN which was pretty good. But back on topic, they had examples of the Thompson and Owen laying side by said and I picked them both up, and the Thompson weighed a bloody ton! I then picked up the Owen, and even if the whole magazine sticking out the top of the SMG was weird, the Owen felt like it weighed at least half as much, and still felt solid and dependable. I would have loved to have a shot but sadly they were all museum pieces. |
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