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britrifles
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unfortunately I can’t get to my CNo.7 at the moment, but that does look like a CNo.7 follower. There is a U shaped cutout at the back for the .22 cases to drop into the mag box.
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Paul in Arizona
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I have never seen one of these before so I can't be of any help on the value either. The top looks like it feeds the bullets from the side of the top surface rather than from the middle which has a bulge in it
but if that's the way it works its not an issue as long as it works. I think someone told me I would also need a different extractor & ejector to make all this work like a normal bolt action rather than a single shot. The extractor and ejector in the rifle currently extracts and ejects the 22 cartridge now, I have put about 25 rounds through it and it worked fine so go figure. If you can come up with a price for the follower, let me know what it is and we'll go ahead with the deal and I'll give it a try. I assume you will let me return it if it doesn't work out and I'll pay all the shipping. It doesn't look like the rifle is going to sell at the consignment store so I'll bring it home next time I'm there. Thanks again for all the help. I'm going back to you photo again now and try to picture it in m y rifle and exactly how it may work.
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Paul in Arizona
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I did some research see the URL below. The follower you have just makes it easier to load the 22 cartridge rather than trying to feed it into the chamber with your fingers like I do now. In any case, it's still a single shot with no capability to load more than one round at a time, spent cartridges fall through the opening in the rear and collect in the bottom of the magazine.
see the excellent link here with great images What I had hoped to arrange with this rifle is a magazine and follower that held 10 or more rounds
but perhaps that is not possible. Maybe the one you have could be re-engineered to allow it to hold multiple rounds? |
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Goosic
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Paul, you have seen this. This is the same follower I have in my rifle. The only modifications to the magazine is the removal of some metal off of the tabs. You can see in the first picture that the follower can assist in loading and that the spent cartridge falls into the magazine via the back of the follower.
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Paul in Arizona
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Michael, questions: Since my rifle is a number 0ne mark 3 will this work in my gun? Also, do I need a different extractor, bolt head or ejector to make this work? Also, does this remain a single shot or can it be loaded with multiple rounds? Hopefully, we can get together so I can get another look at your rifle and I'll get mine back from Shooters World, doesn't look like its going to sell anyway.
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Goosic
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Your rifle was only ever intended to be a single loading, single shot rifle with no room for multiple rounds so yes, if the spring follower is fitted to your magazine correctly. If not, it is still a single shot rifle with the spent cases still falling into the magazine as before. The existing extractor claw you have is sufficient for removing the spent case. The No4 magazine fitted with a ten round 22LR magazine you referenced to was designed for an entirely different setup than that of the No1Mk111 rifle and could never be made to function properly in your rifle.
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Zed
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Looking at Goosic's magazine with the .22 follower fitted. I think it will work as a loading platform in the No1MkIII type magazine for the .22 rifle. It would certainly be an advantage when loading.
If shooting competitions, the lack of loading platform does make it slightly more complicated to shoot than the No8 Mk1 .22 for example; that has a solid loading platform as part of the barrel, and no magazine.
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Paul in Arizona
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Zed,
You're probably right, figure out how much you want for it and we'll go from there. Thanks again. Paul
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Goosic
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RichardSuhkoi is the one who owns the item in question Paul and not Zed...
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mine has less spring convolutions.
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Goosic
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The last section of the spring that points towards the rear of the magazine on your follower is missing/broken...
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Paul in Arizona
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Goosic, thanks for your observation, I wouldn't have known the difference. In any case, If I can purchase it at a cheap price from Richard, it may be worth experimenting with
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that is the correct loading platform for the trainers i think it might work fine - add a spacer in the bottom of the mag box to get that spring to work , your not compressing it ............
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Paul in Arizona
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good idea, thanks
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