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OldManMontgomery
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Great conversation!
Many old guys in the history of the U. S. hunting pretty much anything they could find with a .30-30 rifle/carbine. It works. Karamojo (William M. D.) Bell took over 1100 ELEPHANT using three rifles, a 6.5 Mannlicher Schoenauer. a .264 Rigby (also known as a 7x57mm Mauser) and a (of all things) a .303 British, (No 1 rifle and the older 215 grain bullet). By his diary tally, he fired about 1.5 rounds per elephant. He used all 'solids' (FMJ) ammo and a keen knowledge of where to shoot. All that to say this. Shoot a round with decent penetration and put it in the right place. The critter will die promptly if not immediately. (That also applies to self defense, but that's a different conversation.) The .303 British round is quite suitable for much of North American (the continent) game. It is a bit more than needed for coyotes, wolves, gophers and the like and probably a bit less than comforting for the larger bear (Kodiak, Polar). But properly applied it will serve. Yes, there are laws about how big a rifle one needs for certain game. I certainly don't encourage one to ignore the laws. But having an automobile that will sustain a velocity of 120 mph for one hour does not mandate one must drive on a public road like that. My old trusted round is the 6.5x55mm Swede. It is another old one that will do just about everything do-able. But the .303 Brit is on my list. And a couple of others.
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paddyofurniture
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In North Carolina the 303 is great for deer, pigs, and bear. I have yet shot a bear.
I use 223 for the rest.
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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OldManMontgomery
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I feel using a 300 Weatherby for bear would be better served to fire a similar cased round with a larger diameter bullet. To my mind, something in the .358 caliber range. .35 Whelen suggests itself, although is is considerable older and not as dernier cri.
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