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    Posted: July 26 2012 at 9:48pm
My Enfield looked naked, so I went out an bought this on ebay:



She's a P-1907 made by Wilkinson Sword.  I am told the almond-shaped protrusion (not visible in this particular photo) on the scabbard is indicative of WW1-vintage.  True? It fits my No. 1 perfectly, and I do not regret the purchase. 

My only question, is there a green painted hue on the scabbard? If so, was it common to paint them?
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You bad boy, good looking bayonet !
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very nice , and yes the almond shaped stud on your scabbord makes it the earlier version , congrats
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Those bayonet models almost could be considered a sword? LOL
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I will say that the picture did not do it justice size wise.  I opened the box and was like

"&*()^%V! It's big!"

If it is of WW1 vintage, what about the green paint?  Also of WW1 vintage?
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It looks like it's in good condition, nice find. How about a picture of it attached to the rifle.
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Originally posted by Zed Zed wrote:

It looks like it's in good condition, nice find. How about a picture of it attached to the rifle.
 
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I am on business for the next two weeks, so the pic will be posted as soon as I am able.
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Originally posted by BlackAck BlackAck wrote:

I am on business for the next two weeks, so the pic will be posted as soon as I am able.
 
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looking forward to that , be looking for a frog next ????
 
OH , need to add that the clearing hole in the pommel makes the bayo a bit later version , if you look closely at the blade at the junction with the cross piece it should indicate it a crown /over/1907 , and below that a digit for month - left and 'double digit for year of mfgr - right , below that should be the mfgr name .....opposite side will have bending test "X" , inspector marks , and a broad arrow acceptance mark
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I'll check the markings when I get home. Even if the bayonet is generic, it looks spot on. I actually like the idea of a mismatch. Seems more plausible somehow. I can just imagine a CQMS handing it out "rifle; one. Bayonet; one"......
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true that would be issue proceedure but sos-ya-know , i think your bayo to be a perfectly respectable example of Pattern 1907 manufacture , wilkinson made a whole bunch of these , i think you did very well with yours and would be proud to own it , congrats
 
it happens that i have a mole , an EFD [enfeild] , a chapman , and a lithgow representing the P07s in my collection , but i would have been most pleased to have found a wilkinson back when i was looking , i collected an example of the hookie , an early and a later without the hook , then i had to date match one to my mint '42 dispersal - thus that lithgow , it was all just luck of what i found and to be honest if i found a brit made '42 dated P07 i would part with my lithgow ......the others im pleased with
 
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Here are the details.  Worn smooth.  I'd like to say it's 10/18 but who knows? 



And the back.  Worn smooth too. 
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Originally posted by Cookie Monster Cookie Monster wrote:

Those bayonet models almost could be considered a sword? LOL
Until quite late the command waqs "fix swords' Not fix bayonets
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Ayup BlackAck,
 
A couple of points, first the scabbard.
 
During WW2, the British Home Guard had a tendancy to paint everything either Green, or Brown. you'll see this with the SMLE also...where they have painted the rifles metalwork.
 
Now you bayonet.
The clearance hole in the pommel of the '07' was ordered to be a procedure during manufacture from mid 1916.
 
The example you show is indeed a late war manufacture of 10-18 = October 1918. The two ways in which the Wilkinson Sword Company stamped their items during WW1 were as follows:- Wilkinson, and Wilkinson Pall Mall. For WW2, the stamping was changed to an abreviation, and included the area coding for that compamy = S294 WSC.
 
 
This is MY rifle, there are many like, but this one... is MINE!
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