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303 Hunter
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I have thought about getting a black powder rifle but the money to get in to it and loyalty to the .303 for hunting has kept me from doing so.
Have yet to draw a elk or moose tag yet but so far 174 and 180 grain bullets from Ross and Lee Enfield rifles has dropped 75% of the deer I have shot right were they stood. The other one did not get very far. |
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The Lee Enfield is to the Canadian north what the Winchester repeater was to the American west. Cal Bablitz
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Shamu
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If you have a .303 Enfield you already have a B/P rifle! You can safely load 215 gr bullets ahead of a full & I mean 100% full charge of 2F! Do clean for corrosive afterwards though.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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303 Hunter
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I was thinking of a muzzel loader.
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The Lee Enfield is to the Canadian north what the Winchester repeater was to the American west. Cal Bablitz
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hoadie
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AH! a fellow smoke-poler!! I have a pattern '53. Love to play with it. Cant hunt Elk with tho...I cant hit squat wiv it...& the Loyal Order of Elk get on my case |
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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Goosic
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I have a pound of Pyrodex P, the FFFG equivalent. I can use that correct? I want to try it and chronograph it...
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britrifles
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The .303 black powder round was loaded with a compressed pellet, 71 grains. I would stick with 2F grain size black powder powder, fill case to capacity. Some compression is probably fine.
I spent a lot of time loading and shooting the Martini Henry, cast my bullets, 85 gr Fg black powder. I never trusted that modern substitute, not with a 1870s Martini. Make sure you clean the bore and cases well (wash in hot soapy water with splash of white vinegar (kind without ammonia). |
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Pukka Bundook
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Pyrodex burns like a garden fire......have some here I was given, and never will use it!
Black in the .303 shoots awfully low compared to proper ammo. ( Loose, not the pellet with the hole through it and case formed around it.)
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Shamu
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Pyrodex tends to have larger grains in any given formulation than "Holy Black". You can't physically overload a .303 case with B/P, its about 1 1/10th the power of modern smokeless. I don't know with pyrodex. The original B/P 215 Gr loads with the wet pellet load ran about 1800 FPS.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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The Armourer
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Just wondering if you meant a No4 Mk1 as a No1 Mk4 would be EXTREMELY rare |
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Travis
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I'll double check (and get photos if possible but I believe those were the markings. It is also stamped 1944 and as near as I can find, it came from an English plant.
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Goosic
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That narrows it down to three plants based on the date.
A serial number will determine who made it. 1944 more likely then not has it as a No4Mk1. Post photos please. As The Armourer stated. If it is a No1MkVI, you have have a very iconic piece of British Weaponry. Look for a serial number with a prefix A, e.g. A0001-A1000 along with a 1929 or 1930 date,both on the left side of the receiver at the buttsocket. It will have a magazine cutoff as well.
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Travis
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It's probably a No4Mk1. It has a serial number of I-7205. I tried to get photos but had too much glare for good ID. I'll give it another try.
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