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    Posted: April 12 2006 at 10:23am
Well come fall just before deer hunting I'm going to take my Enfield to have it sighted in.  He says he'l charge $25.  Well heck I can't even buy the ammo for that price.  My main concern is that the windage is off.  At 25 yards it hits high-left.  The hitting high I assume to be just on account of the factory 300 yards sights.  But it is about 1.5-2 inches left at the same yardage.  He says he sights guns for 25 yards.  Well I think he'll only be able to sight it for windage which as I said is my concern anyway.  I hope it will be in time for her maiden hunt.
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shotgunminister,

Only problem with that is everyone holds the weapon in a different manner, which will change the point of impact.

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Shotgunminister; BOTH my No1 III* rifles shoot 1 1/2" high - & 1" right @ 100 yds, based on 150 grn loads.
I can take either one-one is sport -other is Vimy Vet service rifle -both with open sights & I usually get the same results.(& I've got ALOT of deer!)
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Save your self $25.00 ! Take your self ,Rifle ,ammo ,One small Hammer & a lenght of 1/2 Brass Rod to your range ! Set the rifle up on a steady bench see how it's shooting at 25yrds then Gently Tap the front sight to the Right Just a couple of Light Taps ! Using the Brass rod as a drift ! I mean gentle here Not take a good hit & hope for the best ! Then shoot again & repeat until you get the windage to where it shoots for you Then move to 200 yrds & check the windage again !

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Originally posted by dave h dave h wrote:

Save your self $25.00 ! Take your self ,Rifle ,ammo ,One small Hammer & a lenght of 1/2 Brass Rod to your range ! Set the rifle up on a steady bench see how it's shooting at 25yrds then Gently Tap the front sight to the Right Just a couple of Light Taps ! Using the Brass rod as a drift ! I mean gentle here Not take a good hit & hope for the best ! Then shoot again & repeat until you get the windage to where it shoots for you Then move to 200 yrds & check the windage again !

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Problem being two fold it takes ammo, and second I want to eliminate the possibility that I'm the at fault for poor acuracy.  If some one else can hit a good pattern then I know that my eyesight is to blame.  By spending the $25 I will know once and for all if the rifle is accurate.

 

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shotgunminister,

That is true but the rifle will shoot different when you shoot it. You still have to check it to see if your on.

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Originally posted by Cookie Monster Cookie Monster wrote:

shotgunminister,

That is true but rifle will shot different when you shoot it. You still have to check it to see if your on.

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Once again you speack with great wisdom GRASS HOPPER ! (now can I take these half ping pong balls out of my eyes ?)

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I know a happily married couple who are both Lee Enfield enthusiasts. If they shoot the same rifle at the same target using the same ammunition, they put up groups in opposite corners of the target.

The best person to sight in a rifle is the person who is going to shoot the thing.

I am stunned at the assertion that it is cheaper to pay someone else to do it. How many rounds could you buy for $25? You should be able to get about 40 rounds for that money. And if you can't get sighted in within 40 rounds, you have no business owning a Lee Enfield.

I like the brass rod idea. But if it is a No 4, you will want a foresight locking screw screwdriver. This can be made from a normal screwdrive. Grind off the normal blade and cut a slot in the end with a Dremel or some such.

Ideally, you want a screwdriver with a 3/16" dia shaft. The slot needs to be 1/16" wide and 3/32" deep.

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I understand the concept of each person shootign a rifle differently. However this is more about proving the accuracy of the rifle then about anything else.  s soon as the wind quits blowing I am going to take the rifle out and see where it's hitting on the target.  If I'm satisfied with where it's hits I'll save my money.  last time I took it out I hit 3 out of 8 rounds on a 8-10 sheet of paper at 25 yards.  The ones that did hit the paper hit high left. If I payed some one $25 it would be money well spent just to show wether it me or the rifle which is inaccurate.  More then likely I am going to put a scope on the rifle and have it sighted in with the scope.  Time will tell.
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Well, I wouldn't pay someone else for the fun of setting the sights, but I understand the determining the accuracy angle. As I have stated on here before, If I want to see how a rifle will group, I have to take my 21 yr old son along. We do shoot about 3" apart.

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Well the guy I bought the rifle from agreed to put three rounds through it and see where it's hittin'  He said he'd be up here this week so now I'm printing targets off the web.  My concern is not where it hits per say but rather the size of the group. If he can shoot 3-4inch groups @50 yards I'll put a scope on it, sight it in and call it good.  Personaly I don't see why he wouldn't get smaller groups then that.
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I don't reckon you can go past a good bench ,solid rest  for sighting in & seeing how a rifle shoots ! Ah lar Benchrest ! as little movement of the rifle as is possible to begin with. Just to see how it shoots & where it's shooting .Once you've established that you can then shoot to see the error factor between the rest & you & ajust the rifle accordingly to suit your needs.

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"If he can shoot 3-4inch groups @50 yards I'll put a scope on it, sight it in and call it good."

Put a scope on it? Why didn't you say that up front? Then I would not have wasted my time on the subject.

"Personaly I don't see why he wouldn't get smaller groups then that."

Don't worry - the scope will automatically and magically make the rifle more accurate.

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Well its about $88 cheaper to put a scope on this rifle then to buy a new one so I hope your right about the scope making it more accurate.
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I think he was being sarcastic.
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