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I think that's exactly what I have.
Closer examination has revealed it needs more fitting than I thought so it may be just a display piece.
The bolt head needs a lot of work, (the locking lip re cutting, the bolt face grinding back & the extractor & short front of the striker regrinding for protrusion, & so on) & the barrel tube is too long to ever fit. It will need re-cutting & re threading at a minimum.

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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

I think that's exactly what I have.
Closer examination has revealed it needs more fitting than I thought so it may be just a display piece.
The bolt head needs a lot of work, (the locking lip re cutting, the bolt face grinding back & the extractor & short front of the striker regrinding for protrusion, & so on) & the barrel tube is too long to ever fit. It will need re-cutting & re threading at a minimum.


 In another post, you seemed to think that it had been used and was previously fitted to a rifle.

UPDATE:
Well, the bolt, head, barrel & hex nut arrived in the little wooden tray.
It has definitely been fitted to a rifle at some time there are the remains of Sharpie on the rear face of the bolt's locking shoulders, bolt face & in a couple of other places.
The firing pin is the 2-part type & the bolt body & rib has some minor pitting. Nothing to worry about. The cocking piece has a “Broad Arrow” lightly elector-penciled onto it & the number “262”. The bolt head may have been re-drilled but it it was it was very neatly done because I cant see signs of it.
Bolt handle has a serial number on the rear face “82657” & the assembly number “L 4212” on the bottom.
The barrel unit is a dummy chamber with a rifled tube, the rifling is in very nice condition, but it has definitely been fired as there is residue in the bore, chamber & groove for the rim. It seems completely unmarked except for a tiny & very lightly struck “18” just at the junction of chamber & barrel proper. It has a hex nut for securing it at the muzzle end.
Head-spacing looks much simpler than I thought. The “breech” is recessed for the rim, as long as the bolt closes fully when fitted we should be good to go.
One odd thing, which may just be a feature of the .22 bolt assy is that when in the “closed & locked” position the striker & cocking piece are about 1 ¼ turn backed off from fully forward! I don't know if this is just replacing the stop collar, which the striker doesn't seem to have per se in it 2 piece RF configuration. Firing pin protrusion looks normal & the front section is free floating with no binding or snagging.
Can anyone confirm this either way?
I have NOT tried fitting to my rifle at this point as everything has been given a good clean & is soaking up a little oil overnight.
I'll get a bunch of pictures tomorrow as well.


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I believe it was, but not to my rifle.
It may now become a display piece due to the amount of work involved.
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

I believe it was, but not to my rifle.
It may now become a display piece due to the amount of work involved.

Ahhhh - the peculiarity of the English language.

"it may just be a display piece" (ie a non-functioning item)

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"it may now become a display piece" (too much work to get it to function in my rifle)
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funny how we over state while trying to be direct in this language - yet , i get the thinking , i once had a conversion custom turned to fit my springfield M1903 - i had it intentionally made to require fitting to the receiver it was designed for , took to turns with a chamber reeme to fit it , but it was designed that way , 

i know that springfields were designed with interchangeability but this was intended as a custom fit - one of a kind item - probably due to my love of enfields , 
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My usual reply to grammar nazis its simply "There, Their, They're"!
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Anyway, pictures as promised.
Kit, as received.


close up of bolt & .22 RF bolt head

bolt & head bottom view. You can see the amount the cocking piece is pushed rearwards by the RF conversion.

Bolt & head top view

Bolt head & offset short RF firing pin.

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Offset firing pin in bolt face

22 tube, breech end, shows extractor cut.

22 tube muzzle end.

Tube protrusion from barrel's muzzle. You can see the 1/8" or so of un-threaded tube.

nut fully tightened showing gap with original muzzle.




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This is as far as the bolt & head can be closed on the action. The bolt alone closes fully & smoothly with the head removed.

What I'm referring to as "the curve" of the SMLE receivers bolt head rail. The red line is strait. I never noticed this before. The original bolt works fine so I assume I just need to relieve the inside of the bolt head's "hook" to get clearance.

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You could turn up a spacer to just sit on the barrel muzzle (not the nose cap) to be able to tighten the nut.
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Thats what I was thinking. Maybe something a bit more modern than leather though. Delrin maybe?
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