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    Posted: March 09 2020 at 10:54am
I have a new to me Enfield. I ws hoping that you could help me identify it. 


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Welcome from Phoenix Arizona. 
The professionals with this particular Lee Enfield will arrive shortly. Hang in there...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2020 at 11:59am
This appears to be a BSA made 1907 Short Magazine Lee Enfield Mk1* originally; that has been converted to Mk1*** specification. The convesrion to *** spec was mainly the upgrading of the sights to accomodate the MkVII ammunition and would probably have been carried out during the Graet War (1914-1918).
can you post more photos of the complete rifle?
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yes please - old eyes and i need to see more but i agree with what has been said without being able to see well , that would have been my assessment with what i can see 
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Here are more pictures, let me know if you need anything else. I assume this is just a typical Enfield, nothing special. 


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I will be the first to say this. There is no such thing as a "typical Enfield". Each one has it's own unique style and design in comparison to other rifles made in the same time period.  

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Marco1010 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2020 at 6:53pm
still looks to have the original type foresight with the tighter ears. Also the charger guide on the bolt is present so thats not so common. looks from the photos to be in good conditio and a nice example of the model.
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Welcome to the forum!

I have a No 1*** as well, dated 1909.  I was just posting about it over the past few days.  Yours looks nice, and seems to still have the original stock.  Have you looked down the bore?

The sling on the gun is from a later period, the correct sling would have been leather. It does not appear to have the magazine cut-off, and is there a mag on it?  Can’t see one from the posted photos.

Our rifles are def not typical models, being made in the transition time where the “new” British battle rifle was being developed, refined, and standardized.  Our rifle became the famous No1 Mark III.

The knowledge base on many members of this forum is respectable.  I feel certain that others will weigh in, and offer some historical perspective.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Marco1010 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2020 at 12:57am
You have to remember that these rifles as other have noted were going through a transition period, the introduction of the SMLE early Mk 1 accompanied rapid upgrades, in some cases before the rifle had even been accepted into service with the commonwealth army that had purchased it. they were very much Victorian era hand made /assembled tools of war, not exactly standardised (that would come later with WW1). Even the armourers who had to maintain them were having to adapt to the new rifle and spares in some cases were not readily available yet. A "make do with what they had" effort was typical, and as a result many rifles ended up in a servicable but patchwork state. Also remember that we all treat our Lee Enfields fairly well these days, not like the private/trooper of the 1900's who's rifle spent most of its day being bashed and crashed around the parade ground, and regularly cleaned whether it was dirty or not.
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To me these are my favs, the for bearers of what would became the main stay weapon of countless nations around the world.
Nice rifle, wish I could find one, kind of scarce here abouts.
Some day I hope.
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Does this rifle have a "CR" serial number prefix?
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Yes it has the CR. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whitjr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2020 at 6:02am
these No 1*** rifles are indeed scarce.  I happened on the one I have quite by accident, and was actually looking for a No 4 Mark 2 when this rifle found me.  I had not ever seen one of these before, and snapped it up when I found it.

I do not plan on ever selling mine.  I would definitely encourage Gunguy12345 to retain his....  it’s in nice shape, and still has the complete volley sights.  
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I plan on keeping it, but I am curious. What do you think its worth? 


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Its very hard to say. We don't know what part of the U.S. you are in.
Prices do vary greatly upon geographical location.
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