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Out west we call the "sniffin' row" Gynecology row. Welcome to our merry band, Thundermtn!
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seems to have fit right in from the get-go , ive been collecting enfields for a lot of years now - yet to find a stripper with her own enfield but still looking with hope .....

the bug - yup it starts just as noted above , started with a 1915 mkIII [no star] for me - then the Pattern 1907 pointy bit for her snout and the sling to fill her rings and the cleaning kit for her buttrap , it just keeps going from there , your basic mkIII* should be easy enough to find , its when you get to the older ones that it gets real spendy , shes the one third from the left - the one far right is a WWII version of the mkIII* 
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Thundermtn, you are going to fit in with us misfits just fine! Thumbs Up

Also, here is a link to a YouTube vid of me and my 1917 BSA. In the vid I was shooting 1944 British surplus ammunition. I share because she is pretty and to really make you want to get one LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouIqPvRPdEI
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Good stuff.

Why are the bayonets so long other than reach? Are they dual purpose for jungle use? Seems like they would be a pain to have on your belt squatting in a trench when they weren't fixed. Looks like they're nearly as long as a machete.

Bear i liked the video, rifle looks good your form is good too. Real solid bone on bone and all lined up. I don't get to see many guys that know their stuff. Usually when I go to the range I see a lot of this.

https://youtu.be/_MZAfp-oL2I
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Most of the really long "sword" bayonets were actually attached to the side of the pack.
Even the shorter No9 bayonets were attached to loops on the side of the web universal pouch.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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..As long as they were..I'm told they wouldn't actually go right thru u. However, a tri- corner will/does.(more blood gutters).
Eventually, they dispensed with the long - "sword" type & went to a spike etc.
The tri-corner was "outlawed" by Geneva Convention, but some still persisted til after.
Nasty bit of work, a bayo..
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actually the bayonets were 17" because the oppositions rifle at that era were 'long' rifles and the SMLE was a 'short rifle for the time period , it gave the soldier the same "reach"  as the opposition had with their longer rifle and shorter bayonet , if you look to the left of my photo you will note the early 'long lee' with shorter "normal" bayonet , you will then see the mkI with its similarly shorter pattern 1888  bayonet - it proved to be too short in combat , thus the next version of pattern 1907 , 

first with the hooked quillon then without , 

in WWII they dispensed with this and went to the spike for close combat , 

early bayonets - 


WWI bayonets = 


wwII bayonets and beyond - 
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Oh! I see a jungle carbine bayonet there.....Nice collection!
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A Sq: That's a tad different than what I was told / taught.
      In actuality, if you have the shorter reach, you usually have the "sturdier" weapon. Once inside the "circle" against your opponent - he is hampered by a long & un-wieldy weapon that he can't defend himself with. But again, in actuality - there wasn't that many deaths - overall - from bayos. (But they look mean!)
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hoadie - thats because you were 'taught' well after the period we are discussing , those days it was trench warfare and the pike was common as the bayonet , the pre-turn-of-the-century 1800-1900 was the long rifles and short knife bayonets - the sword bayonets were fitted to the short rifles of the early 1900s to compensate for the length , by the time of wwII the thinking had changed to the spike and to what you were trained with ------less of course you are near 100 years + old ?????????????
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Sire..I took my "Edged wepons training" @ Ft.Ontario.
Admittedly - it wasn't what we'd call "in-depth" cuz it was only 3 days. But..I sure learned a lot about proper bayo combat..with 1853 Enfields.
It all comes down to getting INSIDE the perimeter of defence.
The long rifle & bayo would still be a useful/deadly weapon in the hands of a skilled bayonet man. But fortunately, little of that comes to play today
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ggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzz hoadie trained on an pattern 1853 ??????????????

i guess your older than i thought - ive got one of those here somewhere and its pointy bit as well , see if i can find the photo ..................


nope only the pointy bits - ill have to take photos when the  weather allows - represented here are bayonets for my P1853 , my snyder , and my martini 
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Welcome to the forum Thundermtn. I enjoyed the youtube video! we get a few of those types as well.( Especially the pump action slugger's on a bandit type target)

There are competitions for shooting military rifles and the Enfields can be very accurate if properly put together. Take you time to find a good one, make sure the headspace is within spec and that the barrel is all good. Pay particular attention to the muzzle for erosion or wear; as it can have a bad effect on accuracy.
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Welcome!
As you can see it's fun here.
They do know their stuff, and have great collections.  You are only sort of sick now.  Wait until you see some of the collections these folks have.
Start putting some of your hard earned into a secret account.  You'll need it.
BTW the YouTube has some good videos on how to use the Enfield rifle and chargers. 
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