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    Posted: February 11 2019 at 1:00pm
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Very nice! Excellent tribute.
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Vary tasty. Nice job.
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I 3rd the sentiments!
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Thank you.  I put a full length No4Mk1 barrel back on it,filed off the bayonet and sight lugs. Found a .22 single feed feed ramp and put the PH sight insert cup on the butt stock.
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very nice work , 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2019 at 11:27pm
Nice job Goosic. I think we saw the .22 conversion tube fitted in a previous post. That's a nice option.

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Wow, I like it. 22cal way to go. 
 
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It is still a .303. I have a .22 conversion kit that was intended for the No1MkIII*. Still redesigning the bolt head to work properly in the No4.
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I'm sure you could fill and drill a No4 type bolt head to suit the .22 offset
In the No2MkIV* which is the .22 version of No1 MkIII. The firing pin is in two parts. Using an original firing pin cut at the collar and that pushes the offset pin in the bolt head. It should not be too difficult to use the same method with the No4 bolt head.
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That is exactly what I am going to do.
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Here's a bit of Enfield minutia. Please bear with me, I am fascinated by inconsequential details which get overlooked and often are not published in books, they get lost in the obscurity of time. You should see the margins of the pages in my reference books, full of notes and addendum.
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The first 22 rim fire trainer, was introduced in 1907, the Sht.22 Mk.I, was converted from the MLM Mk.I long Lee service rifle. Its bolt assembly used a one piece striker and offset drilled bolt head. Very clever but a kinda funky looking striker that was difficult to make and tricky to assemble into the bolt. So in 1910, a new improved assembly was introduced with a two piece striker. This simplified assembly, being the second version, the bolt head was marked 22No.2.

The trainers were a great success and there was an increase in demand. The Sht.22 Mk.II was introduced based upon the MLM Mk.II and MLE. 
The First World war hit. I guess just about anything suitable that the factory could find to use were converted to trainers. There were a number of new models introduced based upon the SMLE. The factory could not pump them out fast enough.

Anyhoo, this is what I am getting to; During war time production, to try and keep up with demand, instead of new purpose made parts such as the one piece barrel, the original 303 barrel was fitted with a liner and the 303 bolt head was converted to rim fire.
To convert the bolt head, the striker hole was drilled out and a steel plug braised in place, the striker hole was redrilled offset.  The bolt head was marked 22No.2C (C for conversion?).

So what you plan to do has been done before at the factory, you will simply be mimicking but with your No.4 style bolt head.

There are still some C No.7 bolt heads floating around here in Canada, but are getting hard to find. I trade away the last one in my bins just recently, which I now regret. C No.7 22rf barrels on the market have dried up too, probably because there was a batch of surplus NOS receivers being sold a few years ago. As the demand is high for the rifle and the supply is non existent, people are now assembling their own. faux C No.7 rifles. So many, one has to use caution when a C No.7 comes up for sale.  


I know that it is fun to make your own stuff, but if you could find a C No.7 bolt head, it would assemble with no modification, you would be off to the races!
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Always pleased to read your enlightening posts Englishman.
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I have yet to get that lucky and have what I need fall into my lap. It is all good though. Making what I need allows me to learn that much more on how to replicate items that are extremely hard to find or near nonexistent. I have three #0 No4 bolt heads that I know for certain I do not need for the other rifles. I will post the results when the job is completed...
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Goosic, the .22 feed ramp is a good find. It will be really handy when using the conversion. The No8 rifles have a solid loading platform which is part of the barrel assembly; which works well; However the SMLE based No2MkIV* has no platform, just an empty mag for collecting the brass. This causes problems when loading in the prone position, especially if the lighting is poor.
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I don't know if they're still made but there used to be L-E "loading platforms" from Brownells (I Think), they sat on top of the existing mag follower & gave a single shot "channel" to load from. You put them in & took them out like a cartridge.
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