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    Posted: January 13 2022 at 4:40pm
I recently got three examples of this target when I purchased an enfield breech cover out of an auction in Canada.  I thought the shooters on this board may enjoy them, and also tell me what they are, exactly.    If interested I could scan these at 100% size.  I guess they measure about 8” by 4”, but I did not measure it.  


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Probably for practice with sub-caliber inserts or "dummy" rounds at 25 yards for a silhouette that would appear the same as a real tank at 500 yards.  
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i was wondering that .... who would think a 303/3006/308 would even phase that ? subcaliber training rounds makes sense to me 
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When I was in, we used similar with the 84mm Carl Gustav anti tank weapon, and interestingly the sub cal insert was 6.5mm round.
For live fire in Meaford, we had old WWII Nazi tanks to blast away at, I remember hitting a Panzer IV, the thing was Swiss cheese.
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I thought something similar - set the target at 25 yards, plink it with a .22, and you should be able to it a real tank at 500 yards with an anti-tank rifle.  OK - what is an anti-tank rifle, and where do I get one!

I thought you might enjoy it.
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"OK - what is an anti-tank rifle, and where do I get one!"


Well I guess in the 40`s that`d be a Piat or a crate of tnt, if you where serving in Canada, the US had something made by the Bazooka bubble gum company, didn`t they?? Wink
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Originally posted by AussieShooter AussieShooter wrote:

I recently got three examples of this target when I purchased an enfield breech cover out of an auction in Canada.  I thought the shooters on this board may enjoy them, and also tell me what they are, exactly.    If interested I could scan these at 100% size.  I guess they measure about 8” by 4”, but I did not measure it.  


I think this is for the 55 cal Canadian anti tank rifle, Boys or some thing like that.
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I think it says "For Pts I & II (.22")"
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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

i was wondering that .... who would think a 303/3006/308 would even phase that ? subcaliber training rounds makes sense to me 
A school mate of mine was an Abrams tank driver during Desert Storm.
He got a can of Spaghetti O's into the turbine, shutting it down completely.(More on that later.) 
Waiting for the tank retriever, he would be shot at every hour on the hour. The tank was retrieved within 6 hours and when they looked over the external parts they found one bullet out of hundreds sticking out of one of the tanks track pads...
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They had all sorts of "silhouette" targets back in the day. They were called Figure (insert #) targets.
Officers with peaked caps, Squadies aiming a rifle prone & so on.

scroll down to pp 150 or so.

There was a marksmanship training setup with a "scenery" & "objects" (targets)
It was a big panoramic thing with a top & bottom half. The top was detailed scenery, the bottom was plain.
the "targets" were separate & could be moved & pinned so it was always a fresh setup.The instructor would call a "Target" at a specific location on the scenic background & the trainee would  locate it & fire at it.
Something like:
"Tank, to the left, under the tree to the left of the farmhouse 350 yards".
or
"Soldier, prone, in the bushes to the right of the bridge on the Right 125 yds"

The sights were set off by a couple of feet vertically & the shot would go into the plain lower section. there was an offset scoring gizmo too, you'd set the upper end over the called target & the bottom would score a HIT or a MISS depending on the position of the bullet strike. It even took into effect the bullet path & sight settings although it was all at one distance.
The hole would then be patched.

I forget the name of the drill, but there was a LOT more training for a competent rifleman back then. I think 2 years was the quoted time frame.
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