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    Posted: June 04 2021 at 3:43pm
Not an Enfield, but manufactured by the Lithgow Small Arms Factory post WWII, and marketed under the Slazenger brand name.   SAF made a Model 1, Model 1A, and Model 1B, which were single shot, bolt action 22LR.  The Model 12 was a bolt action 22LR but had a 5 round magazine, and a "limited edition" 10-round magazine.  These magazines are as rare as hens teeth and I have not been able to determine if "aftermarket" alternates exist, or if anyone has had success modifying a more plentiful and less expensive magazine.  I recently acquired a model 12 (don't have it yet, it is being shipped from Oz), and would like to stock up on some additional mags as I plan to shoot it.    Appreciate your ideas or thoughts.
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Rare as rainbow unicorns and rocking horse poo.
While I have one of the single shot versions [ a really nice little rifle and a very good kids training gun] I have never seen one of the repeaters for sale
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Originally posted by Moondog55 Moondog55 wrote:

Rare as rainbow unicorns and rocking horse poo.
While I have one of the single shot versions [ a really nice little rifle and a very good kids training gun] I have never seen one of the repeaters for sale

I love the single shot bolt actions - fantastic for the kids.  Fun for the adults too, but....having a few rounds in the magazine is nice.  I once saw Model 12 for sale for $50 - beat up and clearly seen better days, I should have bought it just for magazine and some spare parts.   Sometimes I think "Should Have" is my middle name!
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Keep an eye on the 10 shot magazines - some were marked "the Lionel Bibby magazine". Lionel and his son were famous crack shooters here in Aust and Lionel worked for Slazanger and had a lot of input into the design of the rifles. Those mags are worth a lot more.

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all of my trainers are single shot so ive never thought to experiment with currently available mags - but if you do i would suspect you would find a great market for them congrats on your find and hope it all works out good for you , let us know if you figure out the mag deal - lots of us would be interested - ive not taken time nor do i expect to have it anytime soon to mess with it but i would be interested 
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all of my trainers are single shot so ive never thought to experiment with currently available mags - but if you do i would suspect you would find a great market for them congrats on your find and hope it all works out good for you , let us know if you figure out the mag deal - lots of us would be interested - ive not taken time nor do i expect to have it anytime soon to mess with it but i would be interested 


I'll let you know when I get it and post a few photos.  The experimentation on the mags will be a little slower, like you time is a rare commodity. 
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i wish you luck , there are many others that would be interested but wont post 
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I have actually learned a lot about available Lithgow 22LR magazines, but not much progress on actually sourcing them, but have some alternates.   Let me explain as my travels took me from Chicago to Australia to the Philippines, S. Africa, UK and back to the USA.  Phew.

I posted a similar message on another blog to a bunch of Aussies and learned aftermarket 10 round magazines for the 22LR Slazenger/Lithgow Model 12 and Model 55 are available in Australia, but unfortunately the store selling them will not ship internationally, and they are very expensive.  The board thought these were custom made to order in the Philippines, but I found out they were actually made in S. Africa, but no one knew the name of the manufacture.   I eventually found them - K-Mags and they do have the Slazenger 10-Round available and in stock, but have no USA distributor.  Unfortunately they can no longer ship to the USA direct because the S. Africa postal service wont carry any firearm related products.  I think I was chatting with the owner of K-Mags, Peter,  and he directed me to his UK distributor to see if they could do something - but I haven't yet heard back.  So a dead end.

However because the Model 12 borrowed heavily from a Winchester design, I asked K-Mags if it was possible to substitute a Winchester or a Remington magazine which may be more readily available, and here was his response (verbatim):

"Hi Geoff

The magazines are similar, you can use the Winchester 69a or the Remington 511 magazines.

Mark the height & drill & file the rectangular slot at the back. On the Winchester you need to file / grind the dimple on the side. The follower might need a bit of bending, you would need to check that."  END OF QUOTE.

Winchester collectors probably also know that 69a shares a magazine design with the Model 52 and 75.  There are plenty of aftermarket, new Model 69a and Remington 511 on GB, or directly available from Triple K Magazines here in the USA for about $37 each.  The Winchester are 5 rounds, while the Remington is 10 rounds.

I do not have my Model 12 yet, probably another 4-6 weeks. When I do I will take some side by side photos to hopefully visualize the instructions from K-Mags to see if in fact they are interchangeable, with a little help.

I long post, but hope it helps.

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UPDATE:  Overnight I heard back from the UK distributor. They do ship to the US and we can order online. About £38 or $57 before shipping. So not cheap.  Dominick from the UK also provided the following infor. “ It is close to the old Win 69 pattern, but there are subtle catch differences, best to order the one that fits.”

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