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    Posted: November 11 2020 at 10:31pm
Hi Guys I know you all love a bit of a mystery mission.
Just got hold of a 1942 No4 Mk1 sporterised rifle. metalwork is in very nice condition, with a 5 groove barrel in 9/10 condition. Receiver and bolt have matching numbers.
There is very faint electro pencil on the left side of the receiver, but I can only make out No 4 Mk ?? I'm more of a No1 Mk 3 guys so the markings in the photos are a bit of a mystery to me and can't find either my Skennerton or Statton books.
Any help much appreciated
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I can't see the markings you are describing in your picture, but if it is electropenciled and not engraved I would think it is almost certainly No4 MkI FTR markings. It can't be Mk1/2 since the trigger has not been moved to the action body.
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The serial number is not a known number from any of the five plants that produced the rifle and to me, the reciever looks to have been scrubbed of all original marks.  Your clues as to who possibly produced the rifle are the location of the 1942 stamp and the bolthead release behind the charging bridge.
BSA had a tendency to date stamp the butt socket more often than the other manufacturering plants.
The current stampings you show might have been done by those East Indian folk who scrub everything and then stamp the crap out if it all willy nilly like. There is the pre 1968 England stamp, is there any 2.222" 303 18.5 Tons per □" anywhere on the barrel?
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Proof markings, also trigger has clear stamping showing B & S.
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Does the rifle have Parker Hale or  Santa Fe  stamped on the barrel anywhere?
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it looks intact and returnable to original , if that would be your intent , 
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Hi Goosic

Nothing else on the barrel. I agree It could have gone through an FTR at some stage. There is a faint set of number stamps on the underside of the bolt that don't match the existing matching numbers on the wrist and rear face of the bolt handle.
Also looking at the left side of the receiver the id markings show a faint stamped no 4 Mk 1
Bolt head looks to have BSA stamp?
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As A Square stated. It looks intact metalwise and you should have no issues returning it to its former military configuration. 
And yes, that is a M47C stamp on the bolthead. 
I apologize that I cannot offer you anymore assistance in deciphering the marks on the rifle.
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Thanks Goosic and A-Square  you have assisted me a lot on this one.
I bought the rifle for $300 included 3 boxes of factory ammo, spare magazines, and a gun safe, so a bit of a bargain i think.  Now the fun of taking her back to original condition. I have a nice set of handguards that should match, just need a new lower wood and a couple of bands.  
The off to the range to see how it performs.

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Is the first digit of the serial number a G or a 6 ?

A 'G and 4 numbers' could quite easily be an early BSA serial number, add in the B above the serial number and it starts to look even more possible.
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