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    Posted: May 17 2020 at 12:41pm
he!!o again my friends.  I have a No.4 Mk 1/2. It is a very good rifle but I noticed that the wood at the muzzle is resting slightly against the barrel on the right side. Please see photo. The muzzle does move up and to the left a little but not the right. Should I carefully remove some of the wood on the right so it also moves freely? Thank you for your suggestions. 
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Sorry guys. I tried several times to fix the word "he!!o" above but the post would not update. 
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Handguards should not touch the barrel and allow upward movement of the barrel. Forend wood muzzle bearing should contact lower third of barrel, not the full height of the forend.  

Check that the metal nose cap (forend and upper handguard) is not touching the foresight protector.  
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There should be tip concact over the bottom third of the barrel circumference, It should take 5~7 Lbs of force (use a trigger pull gauge) to move it.
Now you have to identify WHY it pushed to the side.
That problem may not be AT the tip though. That may be a symptom, not the disease.

Take the handguards off do you can access he barrel channel. Look inside them for any contact points (shiny or black ones). This means the handguards are contacting the barrel, which they shouldn't. With some moderately fine sandpaper wrapped round a dowel to mimic the barrel sand them down carefully.
Now reassemble & see if its fixed. If it is take it down oil lightly to re seal with Linseed & reassemble.

While you have it down slip a dollar bill under the barrel between it & the forend wood.
It should slide freely the length of the barrel from breech to muzzle & back. Except for 1 ~1/14" at the bottom center at the breech & a 1~1/12" section at the tip of the forend bottom dead center. If it doesn't remove the barreled action from the stock & do the same in the bottom 1/2 of the barrel channel,also. Sand those points also.
Huge gaps aren't needed, or wanted. a sheet or 2 of paper is plenty.
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Thank you for your instructions. I will print and follow. There is also a video on Youtube that (I hope) also explains this but as I am not a Lee expert I can only hope it is adequate. I am not aware of anybody in this area who works on these so I appreciate the help. Except for this issue the rifle is beautiful. The only part that does not number match is the magazine which sports 7565A.
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Shamu gave a much more complete answer.  How does the rifle shoot? 
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Second thought. (to try first?)
If the wood seems very "dry"
Get some real Raw Linseed Oil. Real, not the cheap home improvement store rubbish.
Take down the fore end & rub 2 or 3 light coats in, one a day, inside & out & let it sit for a couple of days.
Reassemble & see if the problem went away!
Old, dry wood shrinks & warps but re oiling it swells it back up again. If that doesn't work thy the above.

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Britrifles, if I remember correctly (it has been several months since shooting it) it initially printed slightly high and left. I believe on my second to last outing I had to ever so slightly move the foresight to the left. Functionally though, it is superb. It has a great barrel and bolt action is very smooth.

 Shamu, I will see where I can find some linseed oil. My understanding is that the wood on these old rifles can indeed dry out and warp slightly over time. 
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If the rifle groups well, I would not attempt any major surgery, other than application of some RLO or BLO.  Particularly if the draws and rear receiver bearings are good. 
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Britrifles, I agree totally. I will try to locate the said linseed oil. I would rather not do even any minor sanding if I don't have to. 
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Pure raw linseed oil.

Art store, it is called Stand Oil.

Health food store, it is called Flax Oil.
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Yup! thats the stuff, but stand oil is actually boiled.
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Englishman and Shamu, I have a pretty good health food store here in town. I will go by and take a look.  Only wish I had a good 100 yard range closer to home....
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Originally posted by englishman_ca englishman_ca wrote:

Pure raw linseed oil.

Art store, it is called Stand Oil.

Health food store, it is called Flax Oil.


Are you sure?  "Stand Oil" is heat treated linseed oil.  It's aka "Boiled Linseed Oil".  Though boiled linseed oil usually has additional drying agents.

The other name for raw linseed oil is "cold-pressed" linseed oil.
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Cold pressed linseed oil is the best stuff if you can find it and is the most expensive. Again, a visit to the art store.

Stand oil is processed and is a little thicker, yes, but no driers added, it is pure.
 Maybe they do boil it in which case, I stand corrected.

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